Would you go to an out of town match at this time??

@ 75

I'm in that group that is more likely to mort from this virus so I'm stayin home until there is at least a substantial reduction in the numbers of people being infected. To me it's like ignoring the AIDS virus.

Pete
 
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I see now. Clearly, we don't get our news from the same places, because I see plenty of responsible people saying it's time to begin bringing this to a close. You might try something other than CNN. FWIW- I never said this wasn't serious, but when people are told they aren't allowed to fish (Washington), have their basketball hoops removed from a public park visited by a handful of people (Arkansas), are told they can't assemble inside their cars in a church parking lot (Mississippi& KY), we are a nation governed by incompetents. And some of these fools (Drs) are saying this should go on for another eighteen months. In my state we have shut down and economy of 7,000,000 people and have had a total of 101 deaths to date. As I said earlier, most of the folks weren't in the best of health already and we have that many dying of seasonal flu. Yesterday Vanderbilt University said that if we don't continue this indefinitely we "could" have more than 50,000 hospitalized in our state. AS of today, there have been just over 500 hospitalized in the entire state. How many die in traffic accidents annually in this country? Are we all going to stop driving now as well? If this is the kind of thing you support and advocate then you are correct, we have no foundation for a reasonable conversation.

Rick
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Thanks Rick.

Later
Dave
 
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I suppose your point is that there have been 101 deaths since March 20 which is probably less than the corresponding # of traffic accidents during the same period....Caution and prudence are one thing, mindless panic is something else.
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Rick, no, my point was that the number of virus-related deaths Mar 20 - Apr 12 was probably MORE than the # of traffic deaths during the same period. (Actually the number of virus-related deaths Mar 20 - Apr WAS more that the # of traffic deaths during that same period.)

FWIW, the number of deaths in TN since last week:

- Traffic >>> 269, minus 252 = 17
- Virus >>> 145, minus 101 = 44

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Update for week ended Apr 26:

- Traffic >>> 293, minus 269 = 24
- Virus >>> 181, minus 145 = 36
 
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Hunter said:
Rick, no, my point was that the number of virus-related deaths Mar 20 - Apr 12 was probably MORE than the # of traffic accidents during the same period.

FWIW, the number of deaths in TN since last week:

- Traffic >>> 269, minus 252 = 17
- Virus >>> 145, minus 101 = 44

I don't know that we're at the "mindless panic" stage, but this virus thing does have my attention.
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Mr Hunter, Looking at the Tennessee figures makes me wonder where you got your figures. Looks like you are a cherry picker.
 
Hunter said:
Rick, no, my point was that the number of virus-related deaths Mar 20 - Apr 12 was probably MORE than the # of traffic accidents during the same period.

FWIW, the number of deaths in TN since last week:

- Traffic >>> 269, minus 252 = 17
- Virus >>> 145, minus 101 = 44

I don't know that we're at the "mindless panic" stage, but this virus thing does have my attention.
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Honestly Bill, I'm tired of this. OK, 269 people have died in 2020 on TN highways and as of today 145 have supposedly died of the Chinese Flu. It's still close enough for rock and roll in a population just short of 7,000,000. People die every day of many causes. If you are concerned then do what you feel you need to do to protect yourself. That's only prudent. My personal opinion is that in most of the country that isn't NY, MI, NJ the cure is much worse than the disease. Fortunately for me it hasn't changed my habits or my life all that much. Due to my business I already double glove, used hand sanitizer frequently and wash my hands quite a bit. I've upgraded that somewhat which will help me avoid many of the things that go around. Fortunately for most of TN, things should change soon as Gov Lee seems to have at least half a brain as opposed to the halfwhitmer in MI. About the only inconvenience for me is I haven't been able to take my wife out to dinner lately and I'm learning to cook a few new recipes. So I guess it's a plus.

Rick
 
Butch Lambert said:
Mr Hunter, Looking at the Tennessee figures makes me wonder where you got your figures. Looks like you are a cherry picker.
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Actually Butch, his numbers are correct. 269 traffic deaths this year in TN and 145 have been judged as dying of chinese flu. They started compiling the flu figures the first of March. Whatever, in a population of 7,000,000 it really doesn't matter much unless you are one of the unfortunate. Come to think of it, the stay at home thing probably reduced the traffic fatalities a bit since the bars are closed. Silver lining....

Rick
 
Greyfox said:
Actually Butch, his numbers are correct. 269 traffic deaths this year in TN and 145 have been judged as dying of chinese flu. They started compiling the flu figures the first of March. Whatever, in a population of 7,000,000 it really doesn't matter much unless you are one of the unfortunate. Come to think of it, the stay at home thing probably reduced the traffic fatalities a bit since the bars are closed. Silver lining....

Rick
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Yes sir!
 
Butch Lambert said:
Mr Hunter, Looking at the Tennessee figures makes me wonder where you got your figures. Looks like you are a cherry picker.
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Mr. Butch, if you'd read posts # 108-110 maybe you'd understand that I'm not cherry-pickin.
 
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trying to explain the facts, the numbers, the statistics to a belieber is like playing chess with a pigeon

al-onthewayhomefromthecapitol-inwa
 
Well the meeting on the capitol steps was perty cool..... 2500 happy friendly folks gathered in commonality, talking and mingling....... I carried a sign, my wife dressed as Lady Liberty, AND WE FELT LIKE OUTLAWS!!!


LO-friggin'-L!


Aahhhhh The Human Ape is a simple thing at heart (I'm bles't my lovely wife figgered this out long years ago.... hmmmm, yup, that's BACON I smell....)



They've ramped the numbers as high as possible...... anyone who dies "infected" is a "Covid death" even if they died in a car wreck........ they prattle on endlessly about "containment" and "controlling the spread" and as how "we're responsible for the decline" while world numbers are still MILES off the projections. We might hit 1/3 SARS at absolute best, even WHO refuses to even use the term 'pandemic'..... (because it's NOT!)......

And the timmies and the frannies are still totally convinced that this global shutdown is "the correct response"...... and the Whitmer's and the Inslee's have "our best interest at heart" and "they're smarter than us!"


frightening


Right out in front of God and ever'body!


frightening.



(nope, not this flu folks..... sorry...... that's STILL not what's frightening)


Einstein said it best, "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
 
Ohh yeahh, forgot to mention..... News helicopters, reporters from 20 organizations, face-to-face interviews all over (one wearing a mask)

The incessant R O A R ! ! of un-piped Harleys, Indians and Triumphs (I took more pictures of bikes than people)

And COPS!!!


Ohhh My Word! they had the police out in force to "control the rioting" because there were pistols and AR's hanging out in plain sight all over the place....... guy next to me had a SICK paintjob on his SOCOM........ ANTIFA was scheduled to show up...... Cops had riot gear.......


And within 1/2hr the Men In Blue had pulled their masks down on their chins, they were mixing with the kids, we pointedly DID NOT take photographs of the cops down on their knees smiling and interacting with boys and girls, partying like it was 1999. Kids and cops playing, it was like olden times.


There was a old dude fishing in the Tivoli Fountain (it's illegal to FISH here in the Left)


The police were shaking hands with folks as they left..... after the helicopter left (they hovered for an hour and 3 minutes!... hoping...)


And the place was cleaner when we left than when we got there
 
I had an interesting interplay with a couple National Guard kids.... these guys looked like 12yrs old, STERN and poker-faced, scared spitless to be out in public fully geared up with real guns and real buwwets, they weren't even sure how to hold their rifles......

So as I walked by (10ft away) I said "Thank You For Your Service"

That's all.....


"SIR! We're National Guard Sir!"

"Well Thank You"

"SIR! We're not REAL Sir!"

"Yes you are," and "Thank You"

"OK Sir!"

"Thank YOU Sir!!"

I'm happy to say I was nonplussed :)

I gave 'em a thumb's up and walked on.......
 
No "Hunter" we were not outlaws..... the post was meant for those to whom "self-deprecating humor" is a thing, not for you :)

This hairless monkey finds humor in the mirror. You won't understand my reference (nor find humor in the mirror)

Fellow named Pavlov could mebbeso a'splain to you, he's a dog person. You could google it.

You bein' who you are, you might google cats, you might get a fellow Schrodinger.... he won't be any help.

(I don't expect Pavlov to actually be of any help neiyther......but you did ask, and I tried ....)
 
Ohhhh, and in another major blow.....word amongst the masses and in the mainstream news is..... we got kicked off facebook!..... this rally is the straw that broke the zuckerberger's back.......when I get home from work I'll have to ask My Beloved but if it's true....... is this a sign??...... did we REALLY overturn our traces this time???

Ohh The Humanity!

Doo Mon Us!
 
Hunter said:
al-onthewayhomefromthecapitol-inwa, I'm glad to hear that you stayed within the boundaries; we don't want any outlaws around here.
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OK, you asked one so I get one.....you're the lawyer, I'm just an aging rednekkid farm kid got kicked out of school......

The officers that got an "illegal" chance to interact with kids for the first time in months.......and chose to do so.

Are whey outlaws?
 
I know Manitoba's population

Is smaller than a lot of US cities but so for we are fortunate when it comes to the virus.

I believe today's numbers are under 260 cases and 6 deaths. All the unfortunate deaths, the individuals had underlying health conditions.

On a humorous note, who says it sucks to live in a have not province?

Regardless, wash your hands and stay safe. We do not need to read on the forums of losing a fellow shooter to this pandemic.

Calvin
 
alinwa said:
OK, you asked one so I get one.....you're the lawyer, I'm just an aging rednekkid farm kid got kicked out of school......

The officers that got an "illegal" chance to interact with kids for the first time in months.......and chose to do so.

Are whey outlaws?
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al-onthewayhomefromthecapitol-inwa, your “you’re the lawyer” allegation is hearsay and you know it, and it’s not admissible evidence; furthermore, I doubt that Wilbur wants such stuff cluttering up his forum -- so no more of that.
 
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Hunter said:
Third you have not given the court any “law” to review that defines the limitations imposed by said law, or any exceptions that might be available to LEOs.
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Well done, and most notably you defined one of our very real problems .....

My job is done here,

Thank You
 
Inflated Virus Deaths

Greyfox said:
Actually Butch, his numbers are correct. 269 traffic deaths this year in TN and 145 have been judged as dying of chinese flu. They started compiling the flu figures the first of March. Whatever, in a population of 7,000,000 it really doesn't matter much unless you are one of the unfortunate. Come to think of it, the stay at home thing probably reduced the traffic fatalities a bit since the bars are closed. Silver lining....

Rick
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I'm sure everyone realizes the number of deaths from the virus is inflated????
 
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