Simple cleaning rod question.

Oh, yea.
Dwight Scott says to buy the TK Bore guide. From TK and you won't have to worry about your cleaning rod wearing out your barrel.
Not sure Dwight needs the business. But, he's a great guy. Still takes a year to get a barrel.
Maybe, there's some guys out there not using the bore guide.
 
Cleaning Rods

I'm no expert on this subject,but I've used a few cleaning rods in my lifetime. My observations are;

Bullets and powder do way more damage to barrel bores than any type of cleaning rod. Unless its a cleaning rod that travels at 3300ft per second.:)





Glenn
 
I would think with name and money on the line some barrel maker or cleaning rod maker has cut a piece of barrel
length wise ,put a rod of different types with weight or pressure then stroked fore and aft with the guess of say around
1000 shots, cleaned every 30 shots or so. That would be some pictures I'd like to see. May even see more than a bore scope.
 
Read the customer reviews on Tipton's CF rods. They DO break, especially the sub-caliber rods. I believe the joining method used right at the handle is the problem. Regardless, archers who use CF arrows inspect the shafts for nicks, cuts since these defects will greatly increase the chance of shattering. I know of someone who suffered tendon damage in the wrist through a CF rod breaking.....I think of that person every time I start a new bronze brush through the bore. My Deweys give me peace of mind while doing the same job. Knowing where they are made should also scare you. Tipton/ Caldwell products are not a shining example of craftsmanship.
 
After 38 years of home building I have learned any thing can break or slip. I was taught to never keep the support hand in front. I can shave hair off my arm with my chisels, you learn to keep out of harms way. It's not a tool problem most times.
 
The rod snapped and shattered and went in his arm that he was pushing with.....how are you gonna prevent that? ..... wear a welders mit?
 
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I suppose you can except the dangers and take precaution where needed or not use certain tools. I don't know on that one. I've done some pretty hairy stuff and and still blessed with all the parts I was born with.
I haven't figure out how not to fall off ladders or get beat in the head by others but I still do both. With precautions learned from the past.
 
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LHSmith said:
The rod snapped and shattered and went in his arm that he was pushing with.....how are you gonna prevent that? ..... wear a welders mit?
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That sounds like a lot of forward pressure. Was something stuck in you friends barrel?
 
Yep, copper, carbon, and cotton.
I have on occasion encountered heavy resistance when using patches ( especially when applying Iosso or JB ). Ever used the wrong brush because the vendor mislabeled? What advantage do CF rods offer that outweigh the risks?
 
I don't know of any advantage there may be. I want to hear from others on they're take to help me make a better or different choice. My take was a carbon fiber rod was softer to a barrel. I never thought of some of the aspects you guys have brought up. It's good to hear, all of it.Thanks
 
Boyd Allen said:
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3848328.0
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I couldn't resist , had to try on a sawed off piece of a savage 99 barrel.
I used a tipton carbon fiber and a kleen bore stainless, 50 back and forth strokes at 90 degree to the barrel piece, good ones about 2 footers with good presure. After doing this twice, 3 if half way first try counts, I have to
say if given only one cleaning rod to bust out of jail I'd take the stainless Kleenbore. Your milage may vary.
Tom
 
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thats why they make em- somebody will prefer each model of each brand. personally I dont see any advantage to a carbon rod (what are diamonds made of) and way too many disadvantages. so the ones I have will sit in the corner in that big stack of failure rods. But you seem to want to use em real bad so thats ok- its all a personal preference!
 
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thats why they make em- somebody will prefer each model of each brand. personally I dont see any advantage to a carbon rod (what are diamonds made of) and way too many disadvantages. so the ones I have will sit in the corner in that big stack of failure rods. But you seem to want to use em real bad so thats ok- its all a personal preference!
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I don't want to use them real bad. I don't even like cleaning rifles. I asked in the beginning, what all of you think. I'm along for the ride and am leaning to stainless for the fact they are a bit stiffer and may cut down on side rub. Like I said, simple question.
Thanks for all the input guys.
Tom
 
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One thing to look out for, if you value the finish of your new polished steel rod, are abrasive cleaners. I once spoke to a manufacturer of such rods, and he cautioned me that they can ruin the finish of a polished steel rod. I do not use them (abrasives) a lot, but I do use them regularly, and when I do, I do a lot of rod wiping, and pay the most attention to keeping the rod centered and in line, and when I am through, I clean the bore, the chamber, the rod, and the inside of the guide and its inner tube.
 
I've used the same Ivy rod for over 5 years and if anything it is as shinny as it was when new, maybe more but i do wipe it every time it comes out of the bore. i never saw any finish change with the use of Iosso or JB's ……. jim
 
From what I have seen, the manufacturer that I spoke with was probably basing his caution on experiences of users with less careful rod use habits. You know the ones that I am talking about, the ones that look like they are rodding out boiler tubes, or perhaps a sewer pipe, and who are in a big hurry all the time that they have a rod in a barrel.
 
I think…Way too much concern about possible bore damage from cleaning rods. What do you think happens when you send a bullet down the bore of your expensive barrel at 3300 ft per second. There is not a cleaning rod made that can duplicate the damage caused by one fired round. Get a good cleaning rod guide and use a little common sense when using your cleaning rod.



Glenn
 
When you look at the muzzle end and the throat with a bore scope on some of these barrels you may want to rethink that. Some clean the life out of a barrel and don't know it, crown damage is the most easy to see……… jim
 
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