Ideal Rail Gun Weight

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Rambo said:
Go ahead Jay with the Big 50 BMG!!! I got a 50lb rifle I built back in 95 and I've shot it out to 600 yards!!
Rambo
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I built this for a guy who shoots 1000yds FCSA, When I was setting up the gun it took 2 people to put it on the rest, Or I had to pull the weights off and put them back on, Before I made the slide tensioner for the rail it recoiled only a few inches with a clam shell brake, But he wanted to use his other brakes and the thing flew off the back, So it needed more weight and tensioners to help slow it down and help keep it down, It seems to be shooting good, I think he shot a record or maybe 2 with it but he does that anyway with a bag gun 50, Good Luck...J
 
Gene Beggs said:
Exactly ten pounds! :p


Sorry Andy, just couldn't resist. :eek:

My rail gun seemed to get heavier every year so I sold it. Now I enjoy shooting only a 10.5 pound Sporter chambered in 220 Beggs, aka, Lapua 220 Russian). Yep, the 22 bore is now legal in all three bag gun categories.

Good shootin' this year.

Gene Beggs
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Gene, All you had to do was hire a rail gun caddy. You know, like the caddies they have at some elite country clubs or on the PGA tour. Tony Boyer had one at the Nationals in Midland in 2011. You might have seen him. Nice young fellow who carried it for him from bench to bench. Probably was his protege. You know anyone who might want to be your protege? You might reconsider, if someone is so inclined. :D Art
 
"Made to Specs"

There has been reference to 'Made to Specs" in this Thread on "Ideal Rail Gun Weight". I've always been of the opinion that all Rail Guns are Custom built. Designed and made to builders "Specs". Total weight included in those "Specs." Is there a set of established "Specs" that all Rail Gun Builders should be adhering to?

"Unlimited" to me means a freedom of expression by builders like in no other class in Benchrest Competition.

Just my opinion.



Glenn
 
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Never read that anywhere

Chism G said:
There has been reference to 'Made to Specs" in this Thread on "Ideal Rail Gun Weight". I've always been of the opinion that all Rail Guns are Custom built. Designed and made to builders "Specs". Total weight included in those "Specs." Is there a set of established "Specs" that all Rail Gun Builders should be adhering to?

"Unlimited" to me means a freedom of expression by builders like in no other class in Benchrest Competition.

Just my opinion.



Glenn
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I have never seen on any web site where rail guns are advertised for sale where made to order or customized to your particular needs is stated. You can buy off the shelf rails and they post images of the finished products. One can only assume from this that the experimental component no longer exists in experimental unless you have a machine shop and the necessary skills to do the work yourself. If you can point me to a web site that contradicts this I would be eager to have a look.
Andy
 
Andy Cross said:
One the subject of the original post. Do you own a rail ? Type and weight ?
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Andy. I do own a rail. It was made to the specifications of Ray Edwards in WA. It is absolutely not a good looking rail, but shoots exceptionally well. It has helped 3 different shooters to get Aussie hall of fame points.

It is a HEAVY mutha. The base is steal plate, and so heavy to lift that some 6"x4" sections were cut out of it before I came to own it - and I can just barely lift it in its current form.

Just one thing to consider if you are looking to source a rail from the USA. I bought a rail from the late Jerrel Mattingly. Jerrel had to ship it in 3 parts because the USPS weight limit for a single parcel is around 40lbs. And the base and top only just made the weight limit. So if you do go fore something heavy out of the USA, then you may need to find a specialised shipping service that will handle an item like this.
 
I built this one before they was the market except for Barrett!

Jay Young said:
I built this for a guy who shoots 1000yds FCSA, When I was setting up the gun it took 2 people to put it on the rest, Or I had to pull the weights off and put them back on, Before I made the slide tensioner for the rail it recoiled only a few inches with a clam shell brake, But he wanted to use his other brakes and the thing flew off the back, So it needed more weight and tensioners to help slow it down and help keep it down, It seems to be shooting good, I think he shot a record or maybe 2 with it but he does that anyway with a bag gun 50, Good Luck...J
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I machined out a receiver and the bolt, used a M2 barrel. I made the stock with a bipod and I got got a Big muzzle brake on it to!! You just can't shoot it any where for sure! The furthest I've shot was at 600 yards with military ammo. It done ok first the first time out! I've not shot it in several years, I'm messing around with these 22's BR rifles now most of the time!! Take Care Jay!! Rambo
 
Thanks Fergus

Fergus Bailey said:
Andy. I do own a rail. It was made to the specifications of Ray Edwards in WA. It is absolutely not a good looking rail, but shoots exceptionally well. It has helped 3 different shooters to get Aussie hall of fame points.

It is a HEAVY mutha. The base is steal plate, and so heavy to lift that some 6"x4" sections were cut out of it before I came to own it - and I can just barely lift it in its current form.

Just one thing to consider if you are looking to source a rail from the USA. I bought a rail from the late Jerrel Mattingly. Jerrel had to ship it in 3 parts because the USPS weight limit for a single parcel is around 40lbs. And the base and top only just made the weight limit. So if you do go fore something heavy out of the USA, then you may need to find a specialised shipping service that will handle an item like this.
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Thanks for the advise.The easiest method for heavy stuff is to get a rifle-smith/dealer bring it in by ship just as they do a lot of other heavy stuff like a shipment of bench rests or pallet of bullets. Yep their fee goes on top but I always take the easy way out if I can.
Andy
 
Andy

I don't know about now but folks that make rail guns used to make about anything you wanted. If you haven't made any calls you may be surprised......or not. I can tell you this, if your shooting 300 yard benchrest or less you won't have much better ideas than the folks I mentioned earlier. I don't have any experience with other disciplines to advise you on those....if there are any others where you shoot a rail.
 
When I spoke to Gary Ocock about the cutouts in his rail's top, I believe he mentioned that they were done because at one event, where there had been a lot of bench rotation, he had gotten tired of lugging it from bench to bench. It is one of the better shooting rails in the country, having been used to shoot several records. Thanks to Photobucket I still have some pictures that would have been lost when my hard drive committed suicide.
 
Francis,
No piece of equipment can perform to its best potential without an operator whose skills match the mechanical potential of the machine. I didn't mention that because I thought that it was so obvious.

While we are on the subject of record setting rails, and their variations in design, I would be remiss if I did not post a picture of a rail that the late great Skip Otto designed and built, that has for a number of years resided at Tom Libby's house. The chamber around the barrel is filled (I believe) with oil. For those who have not looked at what these two shooters (Gary Ocock and Tom Libby) have done with their respective rails, here is a link to the record book, as published on this site.
http://nbrsa.org/sites/default/files/2013 World Records Group Shooting_20Nov.pdf
and here are a couple of pictures of Tom's rail.


Enjoy.
 
Skip told me that the barrel sleeve is filled with Ethylene Glycol. The reason for the sleeve and liquid is for vibration suppression. He also said he wished he had it anodized green because we all know green guns shoot best.
 
The renowned stock maker Tony Larson loves to make rail guns. Actually, I think he would rather make rails than stocks. He is a true craftsman and ultimate machinist. I'll see if I can find a pic somewhere.

Dave
 
Thanks Dave

Dave Coots said:
The renowned stock maker Tony Larson loves to make rail guns. Actually, I think he would rather make rails than stocks. He is a true craftsman and ultimate machinist. I'll see if I can find a pic somewhere.

Dave
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Thanks for the info on Tony. I will add him to the list of people I can ask. Does he have a web site ?
Andy.
 
Still looking

Dave,
Still looking for a Tony Larson web site to no avail. Do you know of a web address.
Regards,
Andy.
 
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