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ok i been wanting to build a 1000 yard gun for sometime we final got a new range that has a 1000 yard range so i'm not sure what caliber to go with as of right now i dont reload so its going to be bought ammo but i do want to get into reloading just not as of right now so i wanted to know the caliber that would work the best and the action that it should be build on thanks alot
 
No, the F-class forum would be the best place, or maybe the factory/hybrid forum.

I know of no benchrest shooter who doesn't reload. It has been over 40 years since I bought factory ammo in anything other than .22 rimfire. I'd be hard-pressed to make any recommendations about "benchrest minus reloading," and I think that's true for 99.95 percent of the people who actually shoot benchrest. With the "no reloading" component in the question, our opinions aren't as good as someone who is closer to the real situation.
 
Chuck

If you don't handload (that's an uppity word for reload), you will probably need to be looking at the 308 Winchester. It has 1000 yard capability and there are factory Match quality cartridges available at reasonable prices. It's the cartridge that many non-Benchrest non-reload competitors use. It will serve you well at any distance from 100 to 1000 yards. A 308 always has a reasonable re-sale value also.

Don't let anyone talk you into lesser cartridges, and definitely not the "Short Magnums" and such. You'll only regret it.

JMHO

Ray
 
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260 Rem

I had Pac-Nor rebarrel a 22-250 I had with a 28 inch barrel twist to handle 123 scenars. I HIGHLY suggest 260 and the 123 Lapua scenars. Bucks wind and makes it out to 1000 easy just under 30 MOA. Mine pushes 2,870 fps at muzzle, stays supersonic out to 1,250 yards.

Just got back fom shooting in south Tx in 20-25 mph winds and it only pushed the bullet 5-feet at 1000. Nailing 12inch x 18inch plates, but I was driving the gun correctly. Basically no wind affect at all until I got past 400.

It is a great caliber for just shooting. Certain tourneys have certain rules, but for hobby shooting like I do my 260 Rem. Hardly any recoil so you can maitain your downrange sight picture. HSM loads this stuff factory, a case of 123 grain scenars (chrono'd above) for just over $600 a case. Easily available ammo, great caliber, that is what I woudl do.

If you want to eventually build up to a mile, jump all over that 7wsm with 175SMKs. But baby steps first, like I am doing, and go with that 260 Rem. You will be pleasantly surprised.

Mudcat
 
mudcat

Chuck does not handload. Is the 260 available in factory Match cartridges?

Ray
 
missloumudcat said:
Just got back fom shooting in south Tx in 20-25 mph winds and it only pushed the bullet 5-feet at 1000. Nailing 12inch x 18inch plates, but I was driving the gun correctly. Basically no wind affect at all until I got past 400.
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Must have been a 20 mph headwind.

If you want to eventually build up to a mile, jump all over that 7wsm with 175SMKs.
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Interesting. There was a thread on the 1000 yard benchrest forum where the experienced shooters didn't have particularly good feelings about the 7wsm WSM. Probably just more benchrest shooter BS, right?
 
Man, I knew I was shooting the wrong cartridge at 1000 yards. I need to get one of those 260s.:rolleyes:

With a 20mph wind, mine will be blown 4.0 MOA at 400 yards and a whopping 12.1 MOA at 1000.:mad:

Ray
 
308 with factory Fed Gold metal match work very well. 260 would be a close
2nd. #1 if you reloaded.
 
This is very simple!! 6.5 creedmoor is the chambering you seek. Lots of longrange guys are shooting it with great sucsess. Factory ammo is available and it shoots quite well. Go to creedmoor sports and check it out. I really dont see any other option for you. I had one and wish i still did!! Lee
 
Skeet Lee: Your recommendations on how someone else should spend their money comes from your long experience shooting 1,000 yard competition, right?

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Chuck: Cheechako and Lynn are experience 1,000 yard competition shooters.

Before spending money to build/purchase a rifle, go to a couple of matches, particularly in the form of the sport that is closest to what you want to shoot -- benchrest, F-class, highpower, whatever. Even if you want a just-for-fun rifle, go to a couple of matches, unless $2,000+ is pocket change for you.
 
ok so i been looking around and i think i'm going to start to reload so what chamber do i seek that will not cost a arm and a leg. so if u could help me find the right caliber that i should be shooting at 1000 yards and will be using a rem action a clone one not sure which one to do with but going with the css tubegun so thanks for any input u can help me with

ok i bee4n looking at the 6.5mm i dont like that it wears the barrel out so fast i would like to have a bullet that does not wear it out as fast thanks for your help or do u think the 6.5mm will make me more happy with that than other calibers and worth the money just to replace the barrel when its needed???
 
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so if u could help me find the right caliber that i should be shooting at 1000 yards
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Chuck,

It seems like you want someone to just give you a turn-key one-size-fits-all answer.(Hard to tell, really. Try using normal capitalization, punctuation, etc. to help us understand you better) The problem is, and I believe Charles already pointed out, what is 'best' for one particular competitive venue is not necessarily even legal for use in another. If you want to compete in no-holds-barred 1k yard benchrest competition, then the whole landscape of what is popular and winning matches is very different than what would be appropriate if you are looking at say, Palma or F-Class. The rules for each sport are different, and the calibers allowed are different.

If you are just starting out, which it sounds like you are, my advice is simple: Go watch some matches first, or at least take a look on-line at the various competition types and get some idea what you want to do *first* before making any decisions or spending any money. Tell us where you are located (usually a good idea to be courteous and fill out that part of your user profile on any forum so people have some idea what locale you are in to begin with) and someone can probably point you in the right direction to find different kinds of matches in your area. You might even get lucky and be able to hook up with someone who might help you out and maybe let you try their rifle out.

If you aren't willing to do that... my advice would be to get a .308 Winchester. Probably a Savage ;) Reason being that if you don't handload, you can still buy ammunition that will shoot acceptably at distance (bearing in mind that 'acceptably' has a wide variety of interpretations). As you do start handloading, the .308 is pretty well mapped out - and very easy to get to shoot well, despite any initial blunders a new reloader may make (and we all have). The barrel will last a good long while (3000rds minimum, more like 4-5k +) so you can spend more time shooting and less time worrying about whether your barrel is going south on you. Once you've been shooting that a while, you'll hopefully be better able to define what it is you want to do - and with any luck along the way, you might even learn a thing or two about wind reading ;) If you were intending on getting straight into competitive Benchrest or other forms of long-range competition, my answer might be somewhat different. As it is... it sounds like you need to figure out what you want to do first, and even then, you can't go very far wrong with a .308 Winchester of some sort in the gun safe ;)

Monte
 
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Chuck

Listen to Monte. He is one of the better shooters you'll find today. A lot of fake-wood trophies to prove it.

Lynn

I'm gonna have to let you shoot my PPC in a match. There is no better feeling than kicking butt with one. Almost better than sex. Well, OK, not even close, but it feels really good.

I'd second your suggestion that Chuck go with a 300 Win Mag except that he'd be handicapped at any distance other than 1000 yards.

Ray
 
ok thanks for your help alot i going to change the profile i thought i did that right away but i live in mandan nd thanks for all the help and i been looking into reloading my self and i think i'm going start doing it sounds like alot of fun to be shooting your own bullets i do like the 308 6mm and the 6.5mm not sure and is the casing of a 308 and 6mm the same ?? been reading hornady reloading handbook lol trying to learn as much as i can before i buy stuff thanks for all the help
 
Buy a .223 and some reloading equipment. When you can hit small targets at 300 yds and have short range mastered, it will then be time to move up to long range. Mastering short range and reloading skills will be a solid stepping stone to long range. When you get to this stage, you won't worry about barrel life, ammo and equipment costs.
 
i know what u mean but do 308 and 6mm have the same casing?? 6mm br?? i was reading thought my hornady handbook and it said they were the same just wanted to see if it is true??
 
chuck3721 said:
i know what u mean but do 308 and 6mm have the same casing?? 6mm br?? i was reading thought my hornady handbook and it said they were the same just wanted to see if it is true??
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The .308 and the 6mm BR do have the same case head diameter. Both cartridges use the .473" dia. bolt face (as do many other rounds, should you decide to build a "switchbarrel" rifle or just decide to change calibers down the road).

-Rick
 
so if i got a 308 and all this i could make it into a switch barrel to the 6mm br so that would be nice so i do mult different shooting with the same gun is switch barrels hard?? i going to get a viper action and a tube gun set up not sure which brand yet?
 
Factory 260 ammo

I kinda hate giving up my secret stash, but I gt my ammo from HSM out of Montana, 123 grain scenars loaded at 2,870 (chrono'd). I picked up FOUR cases last year. All of it shoots well out of my gun. Pac-nor barrel with propoer twist to work the 123 well.
 
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