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My post was directed towards those who walk into a situation knowing what is going on then turn around and complain about their situation.

The Eley site had that info. Haven't been there in a while.

The "battered wife" syndrome comes to mind. Shooters taking abuse have other choices.

I shoot often with Ed Ledbetter and Glen Townley, they both have been in BR since it began. I love hearing the stories.

Make a list of the relative importance of all the things that will hold you back. Spend your time and money on the things at the top. For me it's ammo.

Some people just operate at a higher level. The best time to be doing that is when the printer is spitting out the match results.

Everybody knows who won, the question is why are the results posted the way they are? This was a National Championship.

So who actually won the UL Indoor Nationals? The website lists Gary Hitte on top in first but when we left the match Don Kowalski was the winner.

One last post on the matter....."You had to be there".

"Battered wife syndrome" comes to mind.

100 years from now all this will have the same importance that rifle matches 100 years ago have today.

FWIW...Indoors Nationals the owner and operator of IR-50/50... WAS THERE...and left before final results and awards. He had the same input that I did, we both showed up and shot.

IR50/50 is a joke. There are a bunch of us who are disgusted with it, especially after the Indoor Nationals. I personally called Dawn Killough and lobbied to kick it out of the Triple Crown.

I only knew that because I often check on match scores from California clubs just to see how shooters are doing in other parts of the US.

There is ARA in Redding CA, much closer than Modesto or Concord.

How do they not go back in the exact same place unless you've messed with the hanger?

Happens on a regular basis.

Can you tell which is which by just looking at a case?

How do you tell the difference between a spring that's too strong and a pin tip that's too long?

Well I remember a whole bunch of Calfee Turbo Octagons that didn't seem to have any issues. I think spring mania started somewhere around 2014/15. And don't forget that plenty of people will change things for no good reason other than to play it safe.