Wild River Air Rifle - USARB Report Indoor December 5, 2012

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MHOPKINS

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WOW! For the 2nd match in a row, a single point (749) from a 3 target aggregate has placed the shooter in 3rd place. First missed X tie breaker gave the win to Chris this match. So much comes down to finding that match pellet your barrel prefers. Hopefully we can carry our luck into January’s postal match.

Shooter Ser Class Equipment Tgt. 1 Tgt. 2 Tgt. 3 Total

hris Lovitt In. HV Feinwerkbau P70FT 250 14x 250 14x 250 12x 750 40x
Mike Hopkins In. HV Feinwerkbau P70FT 250 13x 250 10x 250 17x 75040x
Ron Silveira In. HV Feinwerkbau P70FT 250 17x 250 17x 249 14x 749 48x
Tom Santos In. HV Feinwerkbau P70FT 249 14x 249 11x 249 16x 747 41x
Linda Hopkins In. HV Feinwerkbau P70FT 247 11x 248 11x 248 11x 743 33x
Oliver GudmundsonIn. HV. Feinwerkbau P70FT 248 11x 245 8x 243 3x 736 22x
Steve Ware In. HV Theoben Tactical .177 237 5x 238 2x 237 8x 712 15x


Next tournament will be Indoors December 19, beginning at 9:30 am.
Mike Hopkins, Match Director
 
Good shooting guys. How do you break a tie with two 250s? I would guess the first X miss.
Dan
 
Mike,
Great shootins Guys and Gals!

Don't run out of the good stuff before the postal match.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Paul
 
WoW indeed Mike, some great scores there. Hopefully everyone has used up all there match pellets now :)

Brian
 
Some fantastic scores there, pushing the boundaries of what air rifles can do. Their donsn't seem to be many P70's shot over here in the UK, we may have to change that soon to keep up!
 
Don’t waver Tone, TM1000’s are still looking good to me. Anyway it’s to late to cancel the order now :eek:

Brian
 
Tone,
Since the P70FT's haven't been made in 2 or 3 years, they're hard to find. We have someone that's been looking for most of a year.
Mike
 
Brian_K said:
Don’t waver Tone, TM1000’s are still looking good to me. Anyway it’s to late to cancel the order now :eek:

Brian
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It should be arriving soon Brian, hopefully in time for the Christmas break so I can put it through its paces before the comp on the 1st weekend in January.

Tony
 
Ok guys, Watching you shoot these high scores brings questions. As I remember with my P70 some years back the the gun FAC from Europe was around 16 ft lbs is that correct. Please share your pellet info and velocity.

Bob Zimmerman
 
BobZ said:
Ok guys, Watching you shoot these high scores brings questions. As I remember with my P70 some years back the the gun FAC from Europe was around 16 ft lbs is that correct. Please share your pellet info and velocity.

Bob Zimmerman
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Well, it varies around Europe, but in the UK the power limit for a rifle is 12ft/lb. That equates to around 790fps with an 8.4gr pellet in a .177.

Not so much a handicap at 25yds indoors but at 50yds outdoors, a test of man and machine.

Nevertheless, the scores being produced by the P70's in the States is very impressive.

Brian
 
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Hi Bob,
We love our P70FTs here. Unfortunately, FWB hasn't produced any for 2 or 3 years. Because of outdoor matches, we pretty unanimously shoot the heavy 10.3 gr pellets. Of course with a gun manufactured in Germany, we shoot German pellets (H&N). We shoot just under 800 fps and about 14.5lbs energy.
Any secrets? Well, if you promise not to tell another soul, the pellets right out of the tin are treated with a dry lube of some sort. To be consistent, that lube is removed by only brand name Dove dish soap at 99 degrees in a metal bowl with a candy thermometer to insure temperature accuracy. Allow to soak 4 1/2 minutes only. Then place pellets in a collandar and immediately place in another bowl of 43 degree water from a refrigerator (no ice). Move collander left and right as well as fore and aft about 16 times to insure the skirts insides are rinsed out. They are then 'baked' at 175 degree, pre-warmed oven for 18 minutes (longer will leave them too maleable). They then should be placed on a paper-towel lined cookie sheet and allowed to come down to room temperature. It's best and most consistent to allow overnight temperature adjusting. Just make sure the room temp is kept between 77 and 79 degees.
In the morning, you'll be ready for the final step of lubrication. Now this is important, they will be spray lubed but only on the outside, not up the skirt. To do that, arrange all pellets head up, skirt down. The secret then is in the lube. Keeping the room at 78 degrees, you will make 2 passes from a height of 26inches above the pellet heads (helps to have the cookie tray on the floor so you can be directly above, or, stand on a kitchen chair, leaving the cookie tray on a cleared kitchen table. No more than 1 quater ounce of spray per pass. The lube is the secret. It cannot by any brand but Pam and is not the usual olive or canola oil. No, it MUST be the oil for grills. If your grocery store does not carry this, you'll be able to get it from Pyramid Air. They'll know, just from your asking, that you are one of the very rare professional level air rifle shooter who plans to be in the winners circle at each match. Good luck and remember, don't tell a soul about this secret winning pellet methodology. :->
 
MHOPKINS said:
Hi Bob,
We love our P70FTs here. Unfortunately, FWB hasn't produced any for 2 or 3 years. Because of outdoor matches, we pretty unanimously shoot the heavy 10.3 gr pellets. Of course with a gun manufactured in Germany, we shoot German pellets (H&N). We shoot just under 800 fps and about 14.5lbs energy.
Any secrets? Well, if you promise not to tell another soul, the pellets right out of the tin are treated with a dry lube of some sort. To be consistent, that lube is removed by only brand name Dove dish soap at 99 degrees in a metal bowl with a candy thermometer to insure temperature accuracy. Allow to soak 4 1/2 minutes only. Then place pellets in a collandar and immediately place in another bowl of 43 degree water from a refrigerator (no ice). Move collander left and right as well as fore and aft about 16 times to insure the skirts insides are rinsed out. They are then 'baked' at 175 degree, pre-warmed oven for 18 minutes (longer will leave them too maleable). They then should be placed on a paper-towel lined cookie sheet and allowed to come down to room temperature. It's best and most consistent to allow overnight temperature adjusting. Just make sure the room temp is kept between 77 and 79 degees.
In the morning, you'll be ready for the final step of lubrication. Now this is important, they will be spray lubed but only on the outside, not up the skirt. To do that, arrange all pellets head up, skirt down. The secret then is in the lube. Keeping the room at 78 degrees, you will make 2 passes from a height of 26inches above the pellet heads (helps to have the cookie tray on the floor so you can be directly above, or, stand on a kitchen chair, leaving the cookie tray on a cleared kitchen table. No more than 1 quater ounce of spray per pass. The lube is the secret. It cannot by any brand but Pam and is not the usual olive or canola oil. No, it MUST be the oil for grills. If your grocery store does not carry this, you'll be able to get it from Pyramid Air. They'll know, just from your asking, that you are one of the very rare professional level air rifle shooter who plans to be in the winners circle at each match. Good luck and remember, don't tell a soul about this secret winning pellet methodology. :->
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;) Thanks Mike, that's saved me many hours of pellet preparation and destroyed many myths :rolleyes:

Brian
ps...........do I need to eat the cookies first?
 
MHOPKINS said:
Tone,
Since the P70FT's haven't been made in 2 or 3 years, they're hard to find. We have someone that's been looking for most of a year.
Mike
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Mike,

There is a P70 for sale in Houston. It is the alum. stock May be boosted above factory. The gun was a consistent winner in Hunter FT for several years. Tell Johnny that Bob Zimmerman sent you I bought the Nikko-stirling off of the rifle/
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79574/message/1355715852/P70+FT
 
Great shooting Gents, you have those P70's SMOOOKINN! As far as the TM boys go, it seems to come down to finding the Golden BB the barrel likes! Paul's correct, leave a little in the tank for the Postal Match in Jan. lol

The Best Holidays

Mark N
 
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