Where is the Bullseye in Benchrest?

I think you guys misunderstood my comment. I said that, in score, you could shoot a .330 and still clean the 5 targets. Has anyone ever overlayed all 5 targets to see what size group you would have shot?

ray
 
Ray, when I shot my 25 X's at Lake Charles last year, we we measued every shot from the center of the x dot, and I figureed the agg to be at about .180. ......jackie
 
Jackie - That's the kind of input I was looking for. I know that Score and Group are scored differently but I was looking for a simple way to compare the precision of the two different rifles. Obviously, in your case, there isn't any. But, you're an exceptional shooter. I wonder what kind of agg the average Score winning targets would register compared with the average winning Group targets?

Ray
 
Jackie - That's the kind of input I was looking for. I know that Score and Group are scored differently but I was looking for a simple way to compare the precision of the two different rifles. Obviously, in your case, there isn't any. But, you're an exceptional shooter. I wonder what kind of agg the average Score winning targets would register compared with the average winning Group targets?

Ray

Statistically, a 250 x 25 minimum would be a .200+ group
 
David

You lost me there. Shooting a 30 caliber, you could have two .308 holes touching a .062" dot which comes to .370" center to center of the bullet holes. I used a generous figure of .330".

Ray
 
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It doesn't really matter what an agg "would" be in score. The fact of the matter is that bullet diameter influences the end result in score, and is does not in group. Therefore, group shooters are all on a level field to start and can't rely on caliber to help them gain an advantage. That means that PURE accuracy is the only determining factor for group in a winning performance.

The new UBR target takes the bigger hole out of the equation and makes the playing field about as level as it can be realistically made. At the first registered UBR match at Wilmore(Ky.), there was a good mix of 22's, 6mm's and 30's. The results were also a good mix with a 22PPC-100 winning(I think). No more crying about the 30's having an unfair advantage with that target:D. I still like the 30's and will continue shooting one in both IBS and UBR matches til I fall out of love with them. But you can shoot your best shooting gun and not be at a disadvantage based on hole size alone anymore.--Mike Ezell
http://ultimatebenchrest.com/results/february
 
I would amagine that if for some reason the IBS and NBRSA adopted the "caliber neutral" target that is being used in the UBR, in a couple of years, the vast majority of the shooters would be shooting a legal NBRSA or IBS Sporter, in all likely hood a 6PPC.

Why? Because of the same reason that 98 percent of the shooters in Group shoot a 6PPC Sporter in all three Bag Gun classes.. There simply is no compelling reason not too. They could take the same Rifle that thjey shot in the Group Match last week end and shoot the Score Match this week end, with nothing to worry about but keeping that single Rifle in tune.........jackie
 
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