What's the Proper Procedure When Someone Else Shoots Your Targert?

Hunter

Hunter

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The rule book talks about what the shooter is supposed to do when he/she crossfires; however, I don't see that it addresses what the "victim" is supposed to do. Should the "victim":

1. Interrupt his wing men and inquire about the errant hole as soon as it's noticed;
2. Call it to the attention of the range boss as soon as he notices the crossfire;
3. Call it to the attention of the range boss after "cease fire" is called; or
4. Something else?

Also, is it okay for the scorer to take the victim's word as to which hole is the crossfire?
 
Report it to the range officer immediately. Remember you must also finish your required number of shots in the allotted time. James Mock
 
Hunter said:
The rule book talks about what the shooter is supposed to do when he/she crossfires; however, I don't see that it addresses what the "victim" is supposed to do. Should the "victim":

1. Interrupt his wing men and inquire about the errant hole as soon as it's noticed;
2. Call it to the attention of the range boss as soon as he notices the crossfire;
3. Call it to the attention of the range boss after "cease fire" is called; or
4. Something else?

Also, is it okay for the scorer to take the victim's word as to which hole is the crossfire?
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Without Stationary Backers it is difficult to ascertain exactly where a crossfire comes from. You are at the mercy of the honor of your fellow shooter.

The Sanctioning Bodies do say that if you crossfire, and fail to report it, only to be found out, you will be disqualified from the tournament.

All cross fires are to be reported emmediatly to the range officer upon the completion of the relay, whether you are the one cross firing, or the recipient.

Most shooters, however, will emmediatly call out if they suddenly see holes appear in their target and they know they are not theirs.
 
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Here are the rules about crosfireing

c. CROSSFIRES: Any competitor who is aware that he/she cross fired shall report it to the Range Officer immediately following the completion of that match, and shall fire the balance of his/her shots on his/her own target. If such a report is not made, and the competitor has not fired more than the required number of shots on the record target, and the cross fire can be identified and attributed to him/ her by means of a backing target, he/she shall be deemed to have cross red inadvertently and shall not be disqualified but in either event the shooter shall be penalized as follows: The cross fires shall be transferred to his/her target and shall be measured as if fired in that position on that target. To his/her measurement shall be added a penalty of 1 minute of angle for each shot cross fired. (1 inch
at 100 yards; 2 inches at 200 yards; 3 inches at 300 yards) (See: Target Drawing in back of Rulebook) Any competitor found to have cross fired, and whose target shows he/she to have fired more than the required number of shots (including cross fires) shall be deemed to have tried to conceal the fact of his/ her cross fire and shall be disqualified from that yardage. In Registered Matches, the total shots on the record target will constitute the competitor’s record group for measurement. No competitor shall be allowed to re-fire any match. Targets
with more than the required number of shots will not be disqualified but, except for identified cross fires, group measurement must be taken from the 2 widest shots on the target. Targets shall be hung on all frames so that an equal opportunity to cross fire is provided to all competitors. The competitor must fire his group on the correct relay and from the correct bench. Failure to do so will disqualify the competitor from that yardage.


nobody will be disqualified from the entire tournament even if they attempt to hide their crossfire and are discovered

The rule says to report the cross fire immediately after the completion of the match.. But in consideration to your fellow competitors it is common practice to yell out that somebody is cross firing on your target at the time that you first notice the cross fire. and then at the completion of the match to make sure that the range officer is aware of the cross fire.

Gene Bukys
 
TSI243 said:
n consideration to your fellow competitors it is common practice to yell out that somebody is cross firing on your target at the time that you first notice the cross fire.

Gene Bukys
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Gene, as I read the rule that you quoted, it addresses only what the cross-fire shooter is supposed to do -- not what the "victim" is supposed to do. I can see where the "common practice" would be beneficial to both shooters.
 
The victim of crossfire should finish his group if he already started, if not started on your group, make sure you fire your group away from crossfire shot or shots to make easier to separate the crossfire from your group. Especially if no stationary backer in play. After you complete your group go to range officer and tell them where your shots are and where the crossfire shots are. The referees may ask you later as well. If stationary backer is being used, a good referee will be able to locate crossfire even when crossfire shots and victims shots are in same grouping. It is quite startling to have shots show up on your target when you did not fire, but remain calm and shot your group as I stated above and all will come out in the end. Our rules cover crossfire very well and it is very rare the victim gets screwed in the long run.

Jim
 
From rule book download on NBRSA web site. Page 31, B, Paragraph 3

"Any competitor found to have crossfired, and whose target shows him/her to have fired more than the required number of shots, (including cross fires), shall deemed to have tried to conceal the fact of his/her crossfire, and shall be disqualified".

Whoever typed this onto the NBRSA website must have left out "from that yardage".
 
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Jackie ;

I'm not sure what rule book your using ??? What I posted is simply a cut and paste from page 32 and 33 of the current rule book that is on this web site. Nothing was left out -- the words "from that yardage" are there

Gene Bukys
 

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Jackie
The problem here is that you are using a rule book that is 8 years old -- it has been updated several times since the copy that you are using

The new rule book is version 38 and I we have several revisions to even that newest rule book

What I posted is a copy-- actually a cut and paste--- from the newest rule book and the words are there just as I posted it

BTW I see where both copies of the rule book are on this web site version 37 that you used and 38 which is the newest version. Somebody should remove the older version to avoid confusion as they are different ??

Gene Bukys
 
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