Thank you Ray Hill for Laser Stands

frey said:
From the IR5050 Rule Book.
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How many rules are in that 50/50 rule book, never seen one ,I am curious? Why would you care if some Dumb a_ _ shot his flags.Touched in flags in a match, picked up his blown over flags ,moved his flags or hung his target side ways. I guess I just don`t get it .Putzbach , somebody had an agenda once upon a time and no one has seen the light. More is less they say!
 
mistermike said:
Pete,
I would use the laser just to make it easier to align the flags to where I want them; and then adjust the height according to the rules.

Best,
Michael
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Perhaps I am a bit like Friend BC. My intention here was for someone to consider the problem and come up with a solution, not to pick it to death. It should be possible to make some sort of fixture that would allow the Lazer to shine from the top of the bench to the bottom of the target frame. There is no doubt that the lazer is a great device but why not simply set it up so that one can set and adjust their flags once. Doesn't make sense to me to do it more than once is all I am thinking here.

Me, I am leary of using them because I have heard more than one person say they could and would trash one's eye or eyes if they were looked directly at. I know from driving at night that sometimes I look dierctly into bright headlights so I am thinking I might not be able to resist the temptation to look at the dern beam. :(. I am not opposed to their use in any way.

Thanks,

Pete
 
Slick Willy said:
How many rules are in that 50/50 rule book, never seen one ,I am curious? Why would you care if some Dumb a_ _ shot his flags.Touched in flags in a match, picked up his blown over flags ,moved his flags or hung his target side ways. I guess I just don`t get it .Putzbach , somebody had an agenda once upon a time and no one has seen the light. More is less they say!
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The Rule Book is listed as a Download on the IR 50/50 site. I haven't counted the rules but there are a number of pages in it. I don't know if there is a published book but now -a-day Orgs seem to have them available on line as a Download. It's a good idea to read the rule book sevaral times at first and then re-read it every now and again, if you're anything like me. I often don't remember what I had for breakfast :).
 
"My intention here was for someone to consider the problem and come up with a solution..."

Pete, you are making a problem where non exist!!!

Al
 
Slick Willy said:
How many rules are in that 50/50 rule book, never seen one ,I am curious? Why would you care if some Dumb a_ _ shot his flags.
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I don't care if some dumb a__ shoots his flags. What I care about is if some dumb a__ gets his flags in my line of sight. Most people offset them, you know.

If they're all required to be below a line from the top of the bench to the bottom of the target, them they're not in anybody's line of sight.
 
True but.....how many folks do you know that have a rest that is less than an inch tall?????
 
DonMatzeder said:
True but.....how many folks do you know that have a rest that is less than an inch tall?????
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Well, the point of the rule is it lets the rangemaster go out & put the offending flag on the ground. The rangemaster has to follow a rule, so there is one.

Now this may only be a problem in the CF world. I know you RF guys are such gentlemen that if another competitor got up from the bench & removed one (or more) of your flags, you'd not only offer him/her a cup of coffee, but offer to pay them for their trouble.

You'll just have to take my word that some CF people get a might prickly. Since some of us can take out a target over half a mile away, it seemed best to have a rule. No doubt whoever wrote the RF rules was unaware of you guys gentle disposition.

Edit: But I agree there is no problem with the device. It's pretty easy to compensate for that 1/2 inch. And it's such a nice bit of work!.
 
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Charles ,have you ever shot at Chattanooga , the bench on either side of yours could vary a foot or more in front of each bench,no one to my knowledge has had a problem with it ,but if I understand your argument the flags next to you could be no higher than yours because they would be in your line of sight. Maybe another rule is needed !
 
Al Hadfield said:
"My intention here was for someone to consider the problem and come up with a solution..."

Pete, you are making a problem where non exist!!!

Al
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I have to agree.

This all started as a solution to a problem. My problem.
I didn't want to interfere with my competitors line of sight, nor did I want to risk shooting my flags.
I also wasn't interested is pulling a string every time I set up or had to rotate.
And most important, I wanted to see my flags the same every time.

The laser solves all these problems at once.
 
frey said:
Really?
Did you really mean to type that?

Of all the thinkers and solvers in the world?

Really?
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That`s a good one Jeff!! Livonia is proud of ya! Seen several folks using lazers and work super,plan to get one myself ,anything thatworks and makes it easier is a plus!
 
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What I meant by that was he seems to always be trying to get folks to think but it would appear that most of us just want to wait for the information to be revealed. I know that is where I'm at. I am only interested in solving the problems I am interested in.

Time for me to butt out of this.
 
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If I may ask a question without hijacking the thread. How close to the target are you guys setting the flags? Are you setting them dirctly under? How would they be in the next bench's site line ? I have only shot one match with a lot of wind flags but did not really pay attention to how they were set up.
 
BARTMAN said:
If I may ask a question without hijacking the thread. How close to the target are you guys setting the flags? Are you setting them dirctly under? How would they be in the next bench's site line ? I have only shot one match with a lot of wind flags but did not really pay attention to how they were set up.
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"How close to the target...? This is very much variable. Most folks divide how ever many flags they have over the distance being contested.

It's not so much that they are affecting the adjacent benches but rather the bench itself. Consider a match that has multiple relays. One equipment setup might be just fine and the next guy can't see the bottom of the target. Once in a while, it all looks OK and the match begins only to discover when the wind changes a flag flipped over the edge of somebody's target. The subject rule was implemented to prevent these occurrences and the subsequent interruption of the match.
 
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"How close to the target...? This is very much variable. Most folks divide how ever many flags they have over the distance being contested.

It's not so much that they are affecting the adjacent benches but rather the bench itself. Consider a match that has multiple relays. One equipment setup might be just fine and the next guy can't see the bottom of the target. Once in a while, it all looks OK and the match begins only to discover when the wind changes a flag flipped over the edge of somebody's target. The subject rule was implemented to prevent these occurrences and the subsequent interruption of the match.
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The only way that the lasers can affect anything is when someone or a group of people are down range adjusting their flags and have the laser beams hit them in the eyes. Lasers can burn the retnia and cause blindness. It is against federal law to flash laser beams at airplanes as an example. garrisone.
 
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