set up HBR & VFS same gun???

[Riverwolf1]

Al & Randy,
Due to both of your depth of knowledge, and length of time shooting hunter I have a question.
I ran matches at LaGrande, Or for a couple of years and saw a 6x scope that had a different name, other than the most popular Burris, Leupold, Weaver. There were very few made according to the guy that had it, are either of you familiar with a 6x made by a small manufacturer?

 

[alinwa]

For a new 6 power A.O. scope, the SWFA Tactical line has a couple of 'maybes'. They both feature etched reticles and they have a reputation for rock solid repeatability, holding zero and good optical quality. The MOA Quad has 1/4 MOA adjustments and the Mil Quad has .10 Mil adjustments. Both reticles are not exactly what we'd spec for a HBR scope but the MOA might work. They are 30 mm tubes and 20 oz. with rear parallax adjustment and very reasonable pricing.

https://www.swfa.com/swfa-ss-6x42-tactical-30mm-riflescope-3.html

https://www.swfa.com/swfa-ss-6x42-tactical-30mm-riflescope-105767.html

Stay warm. -Al

Well now

That puts my new Leupold solidly into 'maybe' then too. The reticle isn't as coarse as it looks in the amazon description but I'll soon compare it to the target dot

https://www.amazon.com/Leupold-VX-3i-4-5-14x40mm-Wind-Plex-Riflescope/dp/B018YKPHMS#customerReviews

 

[R.G. Robinett]

Al & Randy,
Due to both of your depth of knowledge, and length of time shooting hunter I have a question.
I ran matches at LaGrande, Or for a couple of years and saw a 6x scope that had a different name, other than the most popular Burris, Leupold, Weaver. There were very few made according to the guy that had it, are either of you familiar with a 6x made by a small manufacturer?

You're probably thinking of the MYER PRECISION RIFLESCOPE 6x40 - I own one of those also (I was part owner/investor for a while) - now, there is some GLASS! When [the late] George Myer and I wen to Germany, in Y2K, to discuss having a BIG NAME German lens crafter grind our glass, their engineer, upon reviewing our drawing and specifications, stated something like: "this quality is reserved (emphasis mine) for the finest photographic and optical instruments." Whereupon, my response was, "yes, how much you speak?" They would not work with our requirements - we sourced the lenses from Japan. Many people, looking through those scopes believe the magnification is 9-10x - that is due to resolution: in that era, a scope which resolved at 75%, or more, of human capability, was a rare bird.

THE problem with the MYER PR 6x40 was/is, weight (29.4 Oz.) - mine sits on a shelf - not just making weight, but controlling the recoil energy requires HEAVY duty rings/base to boot: on only a 10 Lb. platform,the base/rings must be able to withstand a good deal of recoil moment.RG

P.S. A few months, after out trip to Germany, I sold my interest to George, after which, my involvement ended: I had little imput
on the mechanical attributes.

 

[Riverwolf1]

Randy, thank you I knew one of you would know the answer. I looked through the one this guy had and it was incredible, but I had no idea that it weighed that much! I also did not know that you were in part an investor in the development of that scope. Thank you for all you do for the BR community.
Well you mention recoil as also problematic, back then everyone was shooting a variation of .308, like 30x47 or 48 and 135-150 gr bullets. Do you think that scope with double screw Kelbly rings would be a possibly good option on a 30BR shooting 112- 118 gr bullets?

 

[Pete Wass]

Every time I see

what appears to be a pristine Burris or Sightron 6X scope, I buy it. Found a pristine 6X Sightron @ the IR 50/50 Nationals this fall. I had two Burris HBR II's frozen some years ago and in a Buckys adjustable mounts, they were hard to beat. When I got into Rimfire full time I sold off almost all my HBR stuff. I'm in the process of getting back into it again though. Having said that, I'm glad I bought some nice 6X scopes as I went along. I've had the best luck with Burris and Sightron scopes. The glass in the Sightron HBR is hard to beat.

If one thinks Benchrest or shooting in general is dying, 4 months wait for an action and 6 months for a stock. 2 months for barrels!

Pete

 

[glp]

Ha!!

what appears to be a pristine Burris or Sightron 6X scope, I buy it. Found a pristine 6X Sightron @ the IR 50/50 Nationals this fall. I had two Burris HBR II's frozen some years ago and in a Buckys adjustable mounts, they were hard to beat. When I got into Rimfire full time I sold off almost all my HBR stuff. I'm in the process of getting back into it again though. Having said that, I'm glad I bought some nice 6X scopes as I went along. I've had the best luck with Burris and Sightron scopes. The glass in the Sightron HBR is hard to beat.

If one thinks Benchrest or shooting in general is dying, 4 months wait for an action and 6 months for a stock. 2 months for barrels!

Pete

6 months for a Bartlein barrel

 

[R.G. Robinett]

Randy, thank you I knew one of you would know the answer. I looked through the one this guy had and it was incredible, but I had no idea that it weighed that much! I also did not know that you were in part an investor in the development of that scope. Thank you for all you do for the BR community.
Well you mention recoil as also problematic, back then everyone was shooting a variation of .308, like 30x47 or 48 and 135-150 gr bullets. Do you think that scope with double screw Kelbly rings would be a possibly good option on a 30BR shooting 112- 118 gr bullets?

I know of only one individual, T.K. Nolan, who used one of the Myer 6x scopes for any length of time, and who did well while using it. I never had a scope move when using the combination of one single and one double-screw Kelbly - not even the Myer - I just couldn't keep 'em in the ten-ring. I simply could not get a 10 Lb. rifle to shoot with any of the mounts I tried - George and Barry would test the scope, and return with a target, & note asking what was wrong with me. Even were one available, I believe there are better options. RG