brian roberts
New member
Messrs., Rover/Valentine.....
Nice to find two aficianados here. I, like you, loved the SAKOs, the only problems I have seen have been from the perspective, as I see it, in the minds of the SAKO managers. These rifles were conceived as hunting rifles first & always, then there were those who spoke of BR, and/or varmint shooting needs here, so SAKO conceded & brought out some single shots, but these were an accommodation to be achieved through an existing design; I believe they never wanted to get in to BR seriously, or the production of the acessories you mention, because they saw the market as too limited, & looked at the small, semi-custom makers in the US as being better able to meet these market demands if warranted, which would mean more reasonable competition for them if they tried to meet this limited demand. The Europeans tend to be very rigid in these matters when they see the end as being not something profitably attainable. The 22 & 6PPCs were nothing more than a, "Throw them a bone" acknowledgement of this type of shooting(single-shot hunting) by a few individuals, and, when there weren't clamoring hordes beating down the gates for more of the same, the "See? I told you..." mentality was reinforced for the board. Now, with the confiscationalist mentality rampant throughout the world, after sucesses in the uK & Australia, & inexorably licking for crumbs of triumph here, they probably adopted the defeatest mentality, sold out to Beretta & took their retirements & don't have to worry about it any more. And there WILL be more problems here, as this IS a very OLD tactic.....within the next two years or so, there will more than likely be more of the "Loner" or, "Lone-nut" shooters as there have been in the past. Create a problem, then provide the solution, which will be an ever further ratcheting-down of people's rights because, "the world's just a dangerous place" now & "these people hate us for our freedoms, the way we live."(remember that one??) I hate to get that way, but believe me, I had two Europeans over the last 10yrs. tell me the market was getting smaller because, "people just do not use firearms like they used to... they go to the beach..." And I agree with you, they were nice enjoyable, accurate little guns to use. I often wondered if a company or custom maker on a specialty or limited-production basis would make something using the design, upgraded for safety if needed, w/modern high-speed machinery & would make, say, 200-600/yr. for...$1500-$1800 a copy? I like to think that, but it would probably wind up being somebody like Dakota that would make it heavy-enough-you-can't-possibly-hurt-yourself-$3500-don't-you-really-like-it?? expensive, then you'd only want to take it to Africa.
Nice to find two aficianados here. I, like you, loved the SAKOs, the only problems I have seen have been from the perspective, as I see it, in the minds of the SAKO managers. These rifles were conceived as hunting rifles first & always, then there were those who spoke of BR, and/or varmint shooting needs here, so SAKO conceded & brought out some single shots, but these were an accommodation to be achieved through an existing design; I believe they never wanted to get in to BR seriously, or the production of the acessories you mention, because they saw the market as too limited, & looked at the small, semi-custom makers in the US as being better able to meet these market demands if warranted, which would mean more reasonable competition for them if they tried to meet this limited demand. The Europeans tend to be very rigid in these matters when they see the end as being not something profitably attainable. The 22 & 6PPCs were nothing more than a, "Throw them a bone" acknowledgement of this type of shooting(single-shot hunting) by a few individuals, and, when there weren't clamoring hordes beating down the gates for more of the same, the "See? I told you..." mentality was reinforced for the board. Now, with the confiscationalist mentality rampant throughout the world, after sucesses in the uK & Australia, & inexorably licking for crumbs of triumph here, they probably adopted the defeatest mentality, sold out to Beretta & took their retirements & don't have to worry about it any more. And there WILL be more problems here, as this IS a very OLD tactic.....within the next two years or so, there will more than likely be more of the "Loner" or, "Lone-nut" shooters as there have been in the past. Create a problem, then provide the solution, which will be an ever further ratcheting-down of people's rights because, "the world's just a dangerous place" now & "these people hate us for our freedoms, the way we live."(remember that one??) I hate to get that way, but believe me, I had two Europeans over the last 10yrs. tell me the market was getting smaller because, "people just do not use firearms like they used to... they go to the beach..." And I agree with you, they were nice enjoyable, accurate little guns to use. I often wondered if a company or custom maker on a specialty or limited-production basis would make something using the design, upgraded for safety if needed, w/modern high-speed machinery & would make, say, 200-600/yr. for...$1500-$1800 a copy? I like to think that, but it would probably wind up being somebody like Dakota that would make it heavy-enough-you-can't-possibly-hurt-yourself-$3500-don't-you-really-like-it?? expensive, then you'd only want to take it to Africa.
