Safety First primer question.

alinwa said:
The problems associated with "abrasion" and even "corrosion" are only relevant when combined with hot burning propellant, a bullet grinding the grit into the barrel and improper storage procedure...... what Wilbur and others are saying, I agree with. "Wipe it out when y'er done!"
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Gotchya. However if the primed cases won't chamber, then firing the primers and cleaning the barrel is a moot point. IF the primed cases would chamber [and they may not even with FL sizing] then I'd be a dumpin in some powder and seatin a bullet.
 
Dave Tooley said:
Remember the Wilson hand neck sizing dies? Myself and some other people have nice neat round scares we could show you from knocking them out with a hammer. They have a lot of power. My primer traveled about 3/8 of an inch before stopping. No problem using a press.
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J. T. Powell knocked a live primer out of a Wilson neck size die with a hammer. It detonated and he had to have it removed from his hand. Back when we were using the Wilson neck size dies, I always preferred using a base with the die and decapping with a arbor press rather than knocking the case in with a hammer and knocking it back out.
 
Mike Bryant said:
J. T. Powell knocked a live primer out of a Wilson neck size die with a hammer. It detonated and he had to have it removed from his hand. Back when we were using the Wilson neck size dies, I always preferred using a base with the die and decapping with a arbor press rather than knocking the case in with a hammer and knocking it back out.
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It really takes very little effort to ease them out unless they are crimped in military cases. I'd never attempt to deprime military brass with live primers in it. I can imagine the employees at CCI [among others] have lots of stories about primers and primer mix.
 
219don said:
I have a batch of primed brass with an unknown primer brand that I would like to deprime and reprime with my BR primers. Is there a SAFE way to do so ?
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22 replys on how to deprime a live primer. Why?, Gene had the Answer on the second reply
 
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On advice

“Well that sure sounds like a fine idea, I think I’ll try it that way!” Said no benchrest shooter ever... ?
 
i did 500 today
pull down 300 win mag 2018
cci primers
all came out none went bang,
all will get reused.

retired said:
the ONE sure way to deactivate a primer is to FIRE it.
plain and simple.
yes if you deprime by PUSHING them out, they are reusable.
a primer is an impact EXPLOSIVE.
do not bang on the depriming tool.
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retired said:
i did 500 today
pull down 300 win mag 2018
cci primers
all came out none went bang,
all will get reused.
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Reusing them was actually my first choice in this and other threads, but I didn't want to risk getting scolded for even suggesting it. Firing them was the least desirable option. If the rounds would chamber it wouldn't be an issue. Seems silly to disassemble and resize the cases just to pop a primer.
 
We resize cases all the time at work without depriming. Just remove decaping pin from sizing die. Usually its brand new primed cases from Lake City that have had the necks damaged in shipping. We get a wooden case of 10,000 at a time.
 
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MilGunsmith said:
We resize cases all the time at work without depriming. Just remove decaping pin from sizing die. Usually its brand new primed cases from Lake City that have had the necks damaged in shipping. We get a wooden case of 10,000 at a time.
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That's what I would have done. However some of the cases still wouldn't chamber in my new rifle after full length resizing. We'll see if that still holds true once I fire some new cases. Still you'd have to lube the case before sizing and then de-lube it before firing off the primer.
 
antelopedundee said:
That's what I would have done. However some of the cases still wouldn't chamber in my new rifle after full length resizing. We'll see if that still holds true once I fire some new cases. Still you'd have to lube the case before sizing and then de-lube it before firing off the primer.
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Most of our cases still have the factory lube on them. It's not much but you can feel it. I think they use it for the entire process at Lake City. You could also use carbide dies.
 
MilGunsmith said:
Most of our cases still have the factory lube on them. It's not much but you can feel it. I think they use it for the entire process at Lake City. You could also use carbide dies.
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Must not be practical to remove it. I'd think tho at some point you'd want to clean it off. I much prefer the resizing wax myself. Just a little touch of wax on thumb and forefinger can do 3 cases. I remember Guns and Ammo writer Bob Milek tumbling loaded rounds to clean them. His disclaimer, "I'm not saying what you should do, I'm saying what I do."
 
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"I remember Guns and Ammo writer Bob Milek tumbling loaded rounds to clean them. His disclaimer, "I'm not saying what you should do, I'm saying what I do." "

I brief tumble to remove lube is nothing compared to the vibration that powder already saw during shipping.
Especially any time it spent on road shipping.
 
Lake City

We would have got wrote up if we would have let cases dirty with lube go to the next operation when I worked there back in the dark ages. Im sure its different now. They had acid barrels and colt washers, rumble barrels between each operation back then.You better get em clean because quality was checking you.
 
Doug Casner said:
We would have got wrote up if we would have let cases dirty with lube go to the next operation when I worked there back in the dark ages. Im sure its different now. They had acid barrels and colt washers, rumble barrels between each operation back then.You better get em clean because quality was checking you.
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We just got three crates of LC primed brass, 5.56, 7.62 and .50 and all have some sort of lube film on them. Just enough to get your fingers dirty.
 
mil,
selling seconds probably does not have the qc as live ammo.
my post above is 500 fed 300 wm pull down...very clean cases.

MilGunsmith said:
We just got three crates of LC primed brass, 5.56, 7.62 and .50 and all have some sort of lube film on them. Just enough to get your fingers dirty.
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Lc

I don't know what they do to em now but if they were loaded they would have got put in a rumble barrel in loading before they went to packing and got a shine put on em way back when. It sounds like they primed dirty cases. Quality control would have held up the lot if it was for the army. I don't think theres a quality control dept. anymore.They didn't sell stuff like primed brass when I was out there. The armed forces got most of them but they sold outside contracts to other countries too. Doug
 
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