I am looking at buying one of the truing kits for Remington 700's. PTG sells one as does dave manson. the kits look about the same to me other than the price. The PTG is several hundred more. I know some folks debate taper bushings compared to fitted bushings, and that is one difference in the two kits. I don't have an opinion yet on this subject, so I am trying to not let that factor alone determine what kit I purchase. Does anyone have any ideas as to why I should buy the more expensive PTG kit over the Manson? : Lee
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Dusty Stevens
Hollow Point Dispenser
Manson kit works fine but all i use is the bar. The tap works but as you know all it can do is follow the threads and clean em out. But the alignment bar is perfect for dialing it in to single point the threads and hit the lug surfaces
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Make yourself a truing jig so you can single point the threads, face the lug surface and face of the action all on the lathe once dialed.
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burtona
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There are lots of ways to screw up a truing job on a Rem 700. I'm not a machinist and don't have the knowledge or skill to true one up using some of the other methods so I use Dave Manson's tools because it's almost impossible to screw it up and I feel it does a good job for me.
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Mike Bryant
Active member
I bought the Manson tap with reamer and tapered bushings probably from Brownells. The bushings are made to fit on a 1/2" pilot the same as the bushings made by Pacific. What I found was that it took quite a bit of physical work to ream and then tap the threads by hand especially if you try using it on a Winchester action to open up the existing 1" threads to 1 1/16" to get a full thread instead of a thread where the raceways broached through the threads. I trued enough Remington actions with the single point method that I could just about indicate in the action and make the truing cuts in the length of time that it took to use the Manson or Pacific tooling and was easier on me physically to let the machine do the work than arm muscle. If you do get one of the piloted taps, be careful of what actions you use with it. I used mine on a Ruger action and it pretty well ruined the tap. Dave was able to resharpen the tap. I prefer truing an action by the single point method. Either way is expensive for doing a few actions. As to preference, I'd rather build on a custom clone action as on a trued 700 especially if you have to buy the 700 action to have an action to use for a build.
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eww1350
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I have 2 of the Manson kits one is standard the other is a .010" over...I personally think the PTG kit makes better (easier cuts)...for some reason the Manson takes lots of muscle to get the job done...
Dave Tooley
Active member
I've used Manson's kit for years here's a few things I've learned. I don't do Winchesters any longer. The receivers are hard enough but the scope base screw holes are even harder and will damage the tap. Cleanliness is important. I get the threads surgical clean then use Moly-D as a lube. I've gotten on 50 actions with one tap. Another trick. Cut off a 1/4-28 cap screw very short like 3-4 threads left and screw it in the front guard screw hole. Make sure it doesn't protrude into the action. I wrap the receiver ring in thin aluminum and lightly clamp it in my lathe and turn the action at low speed. The cap screw prevents the action from slipping in the chuck. I run the reamer in with hand pressure. Sometimes that takes placing the tool post at my elbow to brace on. I get a pretty even uniform feed. Pull the reamer out, clean, lube and run the tap in. Move to another lathe and face off the receiver. Back in the chuck and unscrew the tap.