Picture of the 0,0077 group?

By the way side

When I was forced to get out of BR about 16 years ago targets were being measured with an optical device assisting a pair of dial calipers being interpreted by the human eye. Last year I got back into BR and found many things had changed. With those advances in technology the aggs being shot at club, state and national level had dropped. But the only thing that had changed with target measuring was that the calipers now had a digital readout.

It seems as if that portion of the sport has gone by the way side and forgotten about. I am sure with the technology we have available today combined with some innovative engineering we could bring the measuring of targets into the 21st century. The only thing to do after that is convince the sticks in the mud to use it and that could take some doing.
Andy.
 
ummm.....an "electron microscope" is of no conceivable use for measuring groups. Unless you've actually got a better way howsabout not assuming that groups are measured in an archaic fashion.

Hey, You got it! ;)
 
Gentlemen, this is the year 2013 and a half. There have been 38 revisions to the rule book. It's time to bring the Association's measuring science into the 21st century. What year was the currently used apparatus introduced? Will we be using the same thing 50 or 100 years from now? Mr Stinnett's group could be smaller than actually proclaimed.

When was the last time the current measuring device was calibrated? When was the last time the members of the measuring committee had their vision corrected to 20/20 or better? [Butch, this is a rhetorical question] When my neurosurgeon operated on my back recently he was using a powerful microscope, not a handheld magnifying glass. If everyone thinks this is going to be the record that will last till "eternity", then it should be given the rightful science it deserves.

Mr. Stinnett should not have to go off on his own, and use modern day optical science to get a better reading of the dimensions. When a group is thought to be a world record, it's time to use world record-setting science. Heck, the electron microscope was introduced/co-invented by Germans, Max Knott and Ernst Ruska in 1931.

It's time to bring the NBRSA's measuring methods and technique into the 21st century. :)

Isn't it time for you to leave it alone or donate your time and money to solve the problem? You posted this same thing on another part of the forum.I answered you with this.

Why don't you leave this to the qualified people? You won't be here 50-100 years from now. I have had 5 different spine surgeries. I believe they used a spyglass!
 
Isn't it time for you to leave it alone or donate your time and money to solve the problem? You posted this same thing on another part of the forum. I answered you with this.

Why don't you leave this to the qualified people? You won't be here 50-100 years from now. I have had 5 different spine surgeries. I believe they used a spyglass!

That's the point, Butch.

Why not contract with an independent source, that uses up to date measuring equipment, on an as needed, one-time basis, for the potential world record groups.

Since it's contracted out, there's no need for expensive in-Association scientific equipment. :)
 
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