New Norma 6 P.P.C. brass

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A quote from the Norma website :

"Norma reintroduces the 6PPC case. Uniformity in weight and wall thickness is as always good. A new double-press heading machine allows us to make the brass really strong. And they are 6PPC from start!"

Interesting I thought.
Try the same concept with the magnum brass for hardness.
I will email them to see what else they have to say on this subject.

Glenn:D
 
Jackie, the lone piece which I have with a 66gr Opel bullet seated measures.2654. The pressure ring I measure on the bullets is .2432.

I think it would be nicely suited for those who shoot thinner necks. They can now turn in one pass. I shoot a .269 neck so it would not be my first choice.

calvin
 
Lou's is .2635, and Calvin's .2654. . That is almost .002 difference.

I have a feeling that Lou accidently crossed the 3 and the 5. Probably supposed to read .2653.

In any case, it is a tad small for my .269 necks.........jackie
 
Norma PPC Brass

CYanchycki said:
Jackie, the lone piece which I have with a 66gr Opel bullet seated measures.2654. The pressure ring I measure on the bullets is .2432.

I think it would be nicely suited for those who shoot thinner necks. They can now turn in one pass. I shoot a .269 neck so it would not be my first choice.

calvin
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This is good to hear. I'm supposed to be getting a small quantity of the Norma PPC brass from Dave Kiff to try and it would be nice to turn necks for a .262" neck with just one pass. My experience with Norma 22-250 and 6 BR brass is it was very soft. Is there PPC brass not as soft ?

Rodney
 
I hope this PPC brass will work out since it will give us another source.The last two experiences I've had with Norma though have been very disappointing. Just last week I was testing 8208XBR in one of my 600 yard 6BR barrels. I had gone to 3100 fps with the 105 Hunting VLD Berger and stopped there since the accuracy was falling off fast. By the time I got to 1.5 grains less in the Norma cases, the primers were falling out as I opened the bolt. The velocity of this loading was 2990 fps.

The experience previous to that was with Norma 22/250 brass. It was just way too soft also.
 
Jerry, I may be wrong, but in either the initial article on this, or perhaps in a news letter by Norma, they were addressing that issue with their heat treating proccess. Lou did not seem to have any case problems related to pressure when he reported on his initial test.

Anyway, there is a market out their that does not shoot in the upper load windows that many BR Shooters find so friendly. For them, this new Norma Brass will be a good option.......jackie
 
jackie schmidt said:
Anyway, there is a market out their that does not shoot in the upper load windows that many BR Shooters find so friendly. For them, this new Norma Brass will be a good option.......jackie
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Didn't I just say that in the opening sentence on my post above??? Hello!!

I'm just reporting what I my recent Norma experiences were!!! Remember the Bob Graff PPC brass of a couple of years ago??
 
Rodney ...

eggman said:
My experience with Norma 22-250 and 6 BR brass is it was very soft. Is there PPC brass not as soft? Rodney
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I find nothing soft about the Lapua 220 Russian brass that I've been using for my PPC. Others may have had a different experience. Sometimes ... I've found it to be almost hard. :)
 
It was only a couple of months ago that the lapua brass was 97.00 a hundred at the same location.

So if we could considered the price being the same, since they provably have and will fluctuate then that leaves us with other quality, usability and convenience issues .

If the necks are too thin to be useable for a .269 chamber that knocks out a lot of people. And I suspect more in the future.

Primer pockets seem to have been mentioned as a problem but then maybe that has been solved.

Fire forming? Since we all have the opinion that for the round to be completely accurate it must be fired once in our chamber then we have not gained much there except that its already the basic shape we need to start with.

I think in the long run it boils down to consistent long term quality and how well the manufacturer listens when there is a problem.
 
Vern, I have made the statement in the past that the way we shoot 100-200 yard Benchrest is in no small part based on the quality, and strength, of the 220 Russian Case as the parent for the 6PPC. The new Norma will have to be at least that good, and that is a tall order to fill.

I am going to try and avoid the expensive "jump on the bandwagon" mistake I made with the new Powder. I think I will give it some time see just how good the stuff really is..........jackie
 
Yes Jackie that is exactly what I was trying to say without getting flamed by others.

It does seem so often that on various subjects we have those that offer opinions as fact rather than just opinion and want to promote or hack on some process or product.

In your case you have a track record and now hopefully a new world record to back up what you say, and many are listening.
But as I recall you almost always speak from actual experience and generally separate fact from opinion and give facts where facts are needed.

Many, even myself sometimes seem to get stuck in a rut that is
 
Vern said:
It was only a couple of months ago that the lapua brass was 97.00 a hundred at the same location.

So if we could considered the price being the same, since they provably have and will fluctuate then that leaves us with other quality, usability and convenience issues .

If the necks are too thin to be useable for a .269 chamber that knocks out a lot of people. And I suspect more in the future.

Primer pockets seem to have been mentioned as a problem but then maybe that has been solved.

Fire forming? Since we all have the opinion that for the round to be completely accurate it must be fired once in our chamber then we have not gained much there except that its already the basic shape we need to start with.

I think in the long run it boils down to consistent long term quality and how well the manufacturer listens when there is a problem.
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Where/who is it said that the primer pocket problem is fixed? Somewhere in this or in another forum? I looked almost everywheres.:confused::confused:
 
Ken re-read my post more carefully.
"Primer pockets seem to have been mentioned as a problem but then MAYBE that has been solved."
I only said MAYBE.

Besides that Ken dont you realize we can say anything against a manufacturer or advertiser here...even if it is true.
Some one mysteriously makes the whole thread just vanish.

So I try to be real careful.
 
We have New 6ppc Norma brass in stock. I measured a couple of cases (necks) for your reference:

Case 1: 0.0109", 0.01085, 0.0110
Case 2: 0.0108, 0.0108, 0.0109
 
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