Never Forget

The sad thing is that in order to never forget, you first had to remember.

I was watching a news channel last night, they went to one of the local colleges and asked students at random questions about what happened December, 7, Pearl Harbor Day.

The answers were abysmal. Most did not even know what conflict we were involved in, much less what the day now represents.

I would like to believe people care, but far too many don't.
 
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I would like to believe people care, but far too many don't.[/QUOTE]


Fewer people care each year. The population is not changing for the good.
This country will never be great again. Sorry I feel that way.
 
jackie schmidt said:
The sad thing is that in order to never forget, you first had to remember.

I was watching a news channel last night, they went to one of the local colleges and asked students at random questions about what happened December, 7, Pearl Harbor Day.

The answers were abysmal. Most did not even know what conflict we were involved in, much less what the day now represents.

I would like to believe people care, but far too many don't.
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You would get the same kind of response asking about the 4th of July.
 
jackie schmidt said:
The sad thing is that in order to never forget, you first had to remember.

I was watching a news channel last night, they went to one of the local colleges and asked students at random questions about what happened December, 7, Pearl Harbor Day.

The answers were abysmal. Most did not even know what conflict we were involved in, much less what the day now represents.

I would like to believe people care, but far too many don't.
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It's the programming at the colleges. The commies won the war. They are teaching the kids.....berry soetoro wants kids as young as 4 yrs. to be indoctrinated....
 
The opposite is happening here in Australia, ANZAC day attendances have been steadily rising over the last few years and the young people are getting involved.

Our schools teach students about our history and it is pleasing to see the young people marching proudly wearing their ancestor's medals.

My uncle-in-law Maurice Jessop was 15 years old when he landed on Gallipoli (he 'upped his age' to enlist). He survived Gallipoli and then served on the western front in France and Belgium. I was very honoured to call him a mate in his later years.

The Australian War Memorial has a fantastic database of every Australian who served our country. The only error is in his age, was actually born in 1900 (I have seen his birth certificate). His service number #287 indicates to me that he was quite keen to serve Australia.

So, do your schools not teach the history of your proud nation? If not, WHY?

It is your heritage so to all you descendants of the heroes of 'The Day of Infamy' get stuck into your politicians and get the schools teaching the young people about their heritage - warts and all.

I was saddened to read Jackie Schmidt's comment about the school survey.

* Doggie *

btw, I served for 23 years, some of the best (and scariest) days of my life but I would do it all again.
 
How soon we forget

I remember Pearl Harbor. Not because I was aware of what happened there at the time (I was 19 months old at the time) but because my parents and grandparents talked about the war and my uncle was in the navy in the Pacific. Pearl Harbor day was honored all through my school years. It was taught in school. In Hisrory class. All of our teachers had lived through that terrible war. In Texas, we even had classes on Texas history. I will always remember the Alamo.

Consider what percentage of the current population of the United States were alive on 12/07/1941. If history is not taught, who will remember? My grandmother told me stories about reading about the Titanic in the newspapers at the time. She was a young woman and that was a major story at the time. If we don’t study history we will loose it.

Thank you for your input Doggie.
 
Thanks Francis. Now we know.

I enlisted on Dec 7, 1981. At the AFES station, Detroit, all day. No one mentioned it was Pearl Harbor day.
Didn't realize it was till I got home. 30 min south of Detroit.
My Mom asked where I was all day. Told her I enlisted in the Navy. She asked "do you know what today is". Then she said look at the TV.

No big deal. Just a story.

1984 RIMPAC Criuse.
Newspaper indicated that this RIMPAC had assembled the most Sailors and Marines in Pearl Harbor since WWII.
6 Cruisers(and a nuke) tied up abreast. Never happens for safety..... There were a lot of ships....
Next set of ships down the pier. 6 ships of the Japanese Defense Force. 0700 hrs everyone was doing calisthenics on the flight deck.
SEATO was still a thing. And all countries were represented. The JDF even sent some of their Subs....
All the Air Bases were packed full of planes.....
And I don't remember, if there were any altercations with the troops....none in the paper....
It was truly amazing that Oahu could absorb all those people...for a week.....

In 1999, I was again working at Pearl Harbor......Not so big a deal.....
Just a story.
 
FBecigneul said:
The Pearl Harbor sneak attack by those dirty Japs occurred in my second birthday. That's the way it was told to us and that's the way I remember it. Lawrence Hanson was killed about a year later and I remember the Air Force guys coming to the Hanson's house across the street from us and giving them the bad news. I also remember how Mr. Kelty's red hair turned white practically over night when he was told Devin was killed in action. I never knew a Jap but I hated them from December 7,1941 on for many years.
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Francis.
It was not a sneak attack. FDR, FBI, USSS, and everyone in DC knew....

By the way.
Did you know that there were other places attacked at the same time. Prolly not.....
Hong Kong, Manila, PI, Singapore, ShangHi, Guam, and other Allied Strong holds were attacked....
 
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jackie schmidt said:
The sad thing is that in order to never forget, you first had to remember.

I was watching a news channel last night, they went to one of the local colleges and asked students at random questions about what happened December, 7, Pearl Harbor Day.

The answers were abysmal. Most did not even know what conflict we were involved in, much less what the day now represents.

I would like to believe people care, but far too many don't.
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Jackie,
Nothing farther from the truth.
The mentality today most would have to GOOGLE the date.......SADLY !!
 
Fred J said:
December 7, 1941. A day that will live in infamy.
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For the real truthfulness back up and read the Anticomintern Pact of 1936.

Then look at the South China Sea blockade that FDR had instituted.

Then look at where Mao and his thugs were coming out of the Stalinist Soviet Union.

Then read the orders from FDR for support of that South China Sea blockade.

Then read why the US Pacific Fleet had stopped at Pearl.

If you take the time to do all the above, THEN you will know.

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Bill Wynne said:
I remember Pearl Harbor. Not because I was aware of what happened there at the time (I was 19 months old at the time) but because my parents and grandparents talked about the war and my uncle was in the navy in the Pacific. Pearl Harbor day was honored all through my school years. It was taught in school. In Hisrory class. All of our teachers had lived through that terrible war. In Texas, we even had classes on Texas history. I will always remember the Alamo.

Consider what percentage of the current population of the United States were alive on 12/07/1941. If history is not taught, who will remember? My grandmother told me stories about reading about the Titanic in the newspapers at the time. She was a young woman and that was a major story at the time. If we don’t study history we will loose it.
Thank you for your input Doggie.
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Someone once said " If you don't know your history you will repeat it.".......Churchill ?
 
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jackie schmidt said:
The sad thing is that in order to never forget, you first had to remember.

I was watching a news channel last night, they went to one of the local colleges and asked students at random questions about what happened December, 7, Pearl Harbor Day.

The answers were abysmal. Most did not even know what conflict we were involved in, much less what the day now represents.

I would like to believe people care, but far too many don't.
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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. ”
George Santayana, Life of Reason, Reason in Common Sense,
Scribner's, 1905, page 284
 
jackie schmidt said:
The sad thing is that in order to never forget, you first had to remember.

I was watching a news channel last night, they went to one of the local colleges and asked students at random questions about what happened December, 7, Pearl Harbor Day.

The answers were abysmal. Most did not even know what conflict we were involved in, much less what the day now represents.

I would like to believe people care, but far too many don't.
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Much of what we were told about WW I and WW II was based on lies of propaganda!

For proof, look at the outcome.

At the end of WW I the takeover of Russia resulted in the enslavement of 15% of the world population and the destruction of 155,000 Christian churches in Russia.

By the end of WW II, the takedown of Germany AGAIN, and Japan, resulted in the enslavement of 43% of the world population...you can do the numbers yourself.

This enslavement by these evil dowers was not Communism but Stalinism. Communism, by its founder Karl Marx was defined "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".

Stalinism as it happened in Russia from 1919 to 1955 was the murdering of some 40 MILLION White Russians.

Do the math.

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The Arizona memorial and the Punchbowl are powerful memorials to the sacrifices made by the Greatest generation. You know you are on hallowed ground when you are there and it makes you grateful for their service. May this country never forget.
 
Slowly,

The Americana Legion posts are withering and closing and I suspect the same is true with the other Military fraternal Orgs. I am a member of the AL and a life member of VFW and I never go to either. My locaal VFW is still SMOKING, ergo not a place for me and the AL is open limited hours.

Once the WW 2 guys are all gone, it's basically over. America hated we Vietnam vets so I think it kept a lot of us away from the Military stuff, in general. I don't know about subsequent vets but no, it will never be the same, regardless.

The Marxism in this country was brought here in the 20's by a president who thought Europe had the best society. Plugged Socialist professors into our universities and here we are. We didn't have enough kids to perpetuate our race anywhere in the Free World so we have become a moot point. We can't change it, any of it.

Pete
 
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