I'll email the fellow and find out but let's say the serial # is covered but somebody knows what the action is and just wants the rifle...what's the price? Frankly, I just need to tell guy what the rifle would cost and I'll be as vague as possible. I ain't selling the rifle and believe he's somewhat stuck with it given what you said about it being "dated". If nobody says differently, I'm gonna say $1500 with no scope but I really don't have a clue.