My experience with a 36X Weaver target scope--it's good!

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Gene Pool

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I acquired a used 6mmPPC recently--a nice rifle with Hart action and Jewell trigger. It came with a 36X Weaver target scope (target dot & fine cross-hairs). Normally I stick with NightForce and Leupold for my scopes, so I was not expecting to be pleased with the Weaver. But I will have to admit this Weaver impresses me....impresses me enough to keep it on the rifle. This evening I shot a .135" five shot group so nothing on the rifle will be changed. The Weaver has found a home.

Gene

EDIT: I might add that I am not a competition shooter so a 1/4" group is better than necessary for my needs. My point is, the Weaver keeps up with my NightForce and Leupold scopes under normal conditions.
 
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Gene, that is like saying that "my S-10 Blazer is as good as a Cadillac Escalade because they both get me down the road"

The Weaver is a good functional scope, there is nothing special about the internal design, or the workmanship. .......jackie
 
Jackie,

Why are you bad mouthing a Weaver 36X scope? Have you ever used one? I use both Weaver and Leupold, both are good scopes. The weaver just costs a lot less money!
 
Rjc

Jackie is not badmouthing the Weaver ----- Just telling it like it is. FYI he has had many brands apart (including Weaver) and has "locked up " a few. I use 2 locked up Sightrons and a Leu comp in Buckys mounts. He can explain the weakness in each system but the fact is that there is a small amount of movement in some(not all) the lower priced scopes. Short range B.R has become highly competive and scope movement of only a few thousands can mean the difference in 1st place and 20th place. Why do you think we pay the high price for March scopes or have others locked up?
 
there are quite a few weavers used in competition, but much more luepolds and now march's.......
occassionally one will see a weaver in the top part of the standings..but not often...

the facts, nothing but the facts.....

jackie knows of what he speaks.....
there is a big difference between " good" and good enought to win consistantly.....

mike in co
 
I have both leupolds and weavers to be honest if I had to pick one I would take the weaver hands down. If you are driving the S-10 to the store and back would the Escalade do any better job of getting the milk home just because it cost $40,000 more? I see this alot I could sell 2 identical items with different names 1 priced at $100.00 and the other priced at $500.00 and most would want the $500.00 one because if it cost more it must be better. Please tell me what is it that makes the leupolds and night force scopes so much better.
 
Well, the heart of any Benchrest Scope is it's ability to hold POA. The main ingrediant in this equation is the way the erector tube is mounted in the scope.

The Weaver features what I call the 'universal Japanese design' in the way the erector tube pivots. There is a large gimble joint, the ball portion being on the erector tube, and the female portion formed by a two piece unit that screws together. The register surfaces are pretty thin, and over a period of time, the joint will loosen. In Benchrest terms, .001 inch at that point means 1/4 inch on the target.

I have had every brand of Japanese Scope apart, they all share a similiar design. In my opionion, the best erector tube among the 36x scopes is the old 36x Leupolds. I cannot comment on a Nightforce since I have never had one apart.........jackie
 
Jackie, is there any spring preload on the joint? I thought that I saw something in a cutaway that looked like there might have been, Also, can it be adjusted to compensate for wear?
 
No Boyd, in fact, the pieces are assembled with Loc-Tite which makes them almost impossible to diss-assemble.

People used to marvel at Weaver simply sending them a new scope instead of actually "fixing'" the ones they would send in for repairs. The reason I believe they did this is because in order to get a Weaver apart, you have to destroy too many parts, plus, it is quite labor intensive. I doubt there is a bunch of technitians sitting at work benches taking these things apart. It's more cost affective to simply send another scope.
 
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