LV BR Stock Weight?

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thumper4fun

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LV 6ppc - Panda RBLP, Kelbly 1" rings, weaver t-36, Bartlien LV taper 22" (total length), unknown fiberglass stock with a 1/2" flat bottom on the butt(the butt plate looks like a coffin). The action is bedded and screwed on (not a glue in).

In the current configuration the gun weighs 10lbs 10ozs. If I take the scope turret caps off and remove the butt plate I can get the weight down a little but not to 10 1/2 lbs legal weight. The stock with butt plate & screws, trigger guard & screw & action screws weighs 2lbs 9ozs

I'm thinking the stock is on the heavy side. It has a hole drilled in the butt of the stock and the barrel channel has all the material possible removed. The only place I can see to remove any material/weight is to drill holes in the bedding.

The obvious way to lighten up the package is to take some length off the barrel, but this is a really good shooting rig and I'm afraid to start hacking off the barrel.

So my questions are, do you think my stock is on the heavy side and do you have any suggestions for taking off weight?
 
FBecigneul said:
That stock isn't heavy.
It is extremely heavy.
This stock I just weighed is at 1.65 pounds or 1 pound, 10.4 ounces. This is with the screw for the weight system and trigger guard and screws.
What kind of stock do you have there?
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A bare McMillan EDGE is about 24-25 oz, a typical Leonard with metal butt plate is about 25 oz.

Is the coffin butt plate metal? Like a Tracker, maybe?

Your 22" Bartlein should be about 4# 10 oz-5# depending on where it was cut.



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A Bruno/Mcmillan Edge stock uses a coffin shaped butt plate. Maybe Lester offers it with heavy fill. I'd call Lester and ask him. Pretty sure it's his design, with that style butt plate.
 
thumper4fun said:
Yes, aluminum

5Lbs on the nose at 22"
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Does this aluminum butt plate have lettering on it? What I'm getting at is by chance do you have some specialty stock like a TRACKER? (A Tracker stock is for Light Gun class in 600 and 1000 yard shooting and those stocks are heavier because the max weight of a LG is 17.5# instead of a LV at 10.5#.)
 
With 22" barrel @ approx. 5 lbs, your stock should be made no more than 30 oz.

Here is the weight detail:
Panda RBRP/RBLP + 2 action screws + (trigger & hanger & guard + 1 false screw) = approx. 34 oz.
LV Barrel @ 22" = most likely a bit more than 5 lbs.....say it's 81 oz
Rings 1" = approx. 3 oz
Weaver scope = approx. 18 oz.
Total (barreled action + scope + rings) = approx. 136 oz.
Total weight allowed for LV = 168 oz.
You have only 32 oz (2 lbs) MAXIMUM for stock + bedding job, glue in etc.
30 oz max. sounds more reasonable to me.
Anyway, you can only use Weaver or Sightron or B&L 36x with that config. No way you can use a March or even Leupold.

Quote: "The stock with butt plate & screws, trigger guard & screw & action screws weighs 2lbs 9ozs"
That is 41 oz! It sounds that your butt plate is pretty heavy.... or maybe with your stock alone?

Your best bet could be removing the alum buttplate and make some cutout on the bottom of the barrel channel.
Or cut the barrel.
Or buy a new stock.

Hope this help,
seb.
 
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Thanks for the feedback. I've done a little more research/made some phone calls and it looks like I have a McMillan (Old Bruno's) HV fiberglass stock. That explains why its so heavy and I don't think I have any options to make it any lighter. If I want to make LV weight with my Bartlein barreled panda action with a Leupold Comp 45 I probably need to go with something like an Edge LV stock. It has a similar design (coffin style butt plate) to what I'm accustomed to with my current stock.

If any of you guys have the edge LV stock and wouldn't mind posting up some pics of your rig I would appreciate it.
 
thumper4fun said:
Thanks for the feedback. I've done a little more research/made some phone calls and it looks like I have a McMillan (Old Bruno's) HV fiberglass stock. That explains why its so heavy and I don't think I have any options to make it any lighter. If I want to make LV weight with my Bartlein barreled panda action with a Leupold Comp 45 I probably need to go with something like an Edge LV stock. It has a similar design (coffin style butt plate) to what I'm accustomed to with my current stock.

If any of you guys have the edge LV stock and wouldn't mind posting up some pics of your rig I would appreciate it.
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Call Tom Meredith. He can get you into a better stock than an Edge and still get under 30 oz, easily. I am not trying to diss McMillan, just the Edge design. McMillan makes a LOT of good stocks, but the edge is a bit fussy for a new shooter.

David
 
This is not a good example but this was taken in 2001 just after Kelley McMillan sent out the first prototypes for evaluation.

A couple of things to notice is 1) the coffin shaped butt stock and 2) the gloss finish of these stocks wrap around even into the barrel channel.

Pro-They are graphite fiber and are strong. This one actually weighed 23.5 ounces.

Con-The weight compartment in the butt stock is somewhat small but Kelley did not want this stock to be a combo LV/HV by just adding weight in the rear and that makes sense.



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David Halblom said:
Call Tom Meredith. He can get you into a better stock than an Edge and still get under 30 oz, easily. I am not trying to diss McMillan, just the Edge design. McMillan makes a LOT of good stocks, but the edge is a bit fussy for a new shooter.
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The last thing I need is a fussy stock.

 
David Halblom said:
I am not trying to diss McMillan, just the Edge design. McMillan makes a LOT of good stocks, but the edge is a bit fussy for a new shooter.

David
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I agree with David 100%.

If you want to keep your barrel the same length, why not cut off an inch or so off the backend of the stock and then re-grind the butt-plate? That should shave several ounces out of your equation.
 
thumper4fun said:
The last thing I need is a fussy stock.
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EDGE fussy?? I shot this stock for about 8-9 years and it did fine.

When I changed to Leonard custom made stocks I retired it.

But then comparing a Leonard to a commercial stock is not really an apples to apples comparison.
 
JerrySharrett said:
EDGE fussy?? I shot this stock for about 8-9 years and it did fine.
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There are a few that seem to be ok. Mine wasn't. The lines weren't very staight and the surfaces weren't parallel. I think there was some warpage when it came out of the mold. It also had to have the bags a certain way and had to have a certain amount of side pressure on the front bag. It shot good when I gave it exactly what it wanted but what a p.i.t.a..
 
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