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I am looking to get into long range shooting and hunting. I would like to purchase a new rifle but really do not know where to start. Can anyone suggest a good quality factory rifle in the cost range of $1,000 or less. I want one that has a composit stock but I really hate the new composit stocks out now days, checkering looks like crap and so does the soft rubber inlays. I am guessing I will need a stainlkess steel barrel unless anyone thinks otherwise, maybe a bull barrel. I would like it to be a 300 win mag. My lease is over run with hogs and we are asked to kill as many as possible but offten they are 500-800 yards out. I would also like a suggestion on which scope to get, again I can't afford an arm and a leg.

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savage 12 or Remington vls in 308. Nikon 6.5-20 fine x-hair or Burris 4-16 is where I would start looking. Energy is not as much of a concern at 500-800 yards as accuracy is.
I personally see no advantage to the stainless barrels on a factory rifle, if you rebarrel it, then I'd consider a stainless hart, broughton, krieger, pac-nor etc.
 
A grand? Buy a used bench gun unless you want to shoot factory class of some kind. I've seen bench guns in that zone that were ready to go, add scope.
Pic one in 6, 6.5, 30 cal and its fairly cheap to have a good smithy deepen it to whatever hawground you want.
 
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Find a Remington 700 PSS chambered in 300Win Mag. You have everything you need, great H-S stock, heavy barrel and they shoot well.
Larry Isenhour
 
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Hogs are tough critters, I put 4 160 grain Partitions from a 280 AI right behind the shoulder of a 450 pound boar at ranges of 100 to 200 yards before he finally laid down and died. It is going to be tough to exceed the energy of the the 280 AI at 100 yards with any shoulder fired arm at 800 yards. I would definitely stay away from some of the lighter 1000 yard cartridges and go with nothing less than the 300 magnums. A 338 Lapua mag would not be too much gun for 800 yard hog busting, but good luck on finding one for under $1000.

Given the constraints you have, I would go with the Savage 12FVSS in 300 WSM
with a synthetic stock or a Savage 12 Varminter low profile in 300 WSM with a
laminated stock. Both have stainless barrels. I would Shoot the heavier premium hunting bullets and work on my tracking skills or get a good dog to follow up those that choose not to die right away. Given the temperament of a wounded hog, you might think about getting several dogs.
 
Thanks everyone for your advice......


Lets say I decided to go with a remington 700 in the 300 win mag or WSM or the savage 300 win mag even though I hate their stocks. Can anyone suggest a good website where I can order an aftermarket stock?

Thanks
 
bbradford said:
Thanks everyone for your advice......


Lets say I decided to go with a remington 700 in the 300 win mag or WSM or the savage 300 win mag even though I hate their stocks. Can anyone suggest a good website where I can order an aftermarket stock?

Thanks
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I would just get the Savage 12 VLP in 300WSM (actually if you can find one I would prefer a 112 VLP or BVSS in 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag) and use the factory stock.

For an aftermarket stock look at http://www.stockadegunstocks.com/


James
 
bbradford said:
Thanks everyone for your advice......


Lets say I decided to go with a remington 700 in the 300 win mag or WSM or the savage 300 win mag even though I hate their stocks. Can anyone suggest a good website where I can order an aftermarket stock?

Thanks
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Sharpshooter Supply really nice laminated stocks, and "ole fred" and lisa are great to deal with, always good products and GREAT service, I'd love to help you and Adrain thin the herd too!!!!

DD

PS: Adrain call or email me
 
bbradford said:
Thanks everyone for your advice......


Lets say I decided to go with a remington 700 in the 300 win mag or WSM or the savage 300 win mag even though I hate their stocks. Can anyone suggest a good website where I can order an aftermarket stock?

Thanks
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By the time u get the stock for the Savage, you could have bought the Rem with the laminated thumbhole or something.

you say you hate synthetics stocks, I assume this includes the laminated stocks.

Your kinda SOL, because I can't think of a walnut stock rifle offered today that I would shoot 800 yards.

your going to have to relax your requirements.

as far as killing hogs, I've only killed a dozen or so, and most of those were with a 22-250, in the recess, just under and behind the ear. The rest I killed with a knife and dogs.

I will say there is not a hog on this planet that a 180 grain VLD won't kill launched from a 308.

300 wsm is a great round, but has significantly more recoil, therefore affecting accuracy in a light platform, and you should consider a 15+ lb rifle, putting you back in the realm of custom.

here is a 300 remington Ultra mag, 10 twister, 1.250 straight contour I built that weights 22 lbs, and is very accurate, and will send anything you can hit with it to the promise land.
 

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Don't cross the Ruger Mod. 77 MKII VT. S/S Target Gray with the 2 stage target trigger with a 26" barrel off your list. Mine is a .220 Swift and will hold its own with the others mentioned in .22 caliber for range and accuracy. I put a Bushnell 4200 Elite 8-32x40mm with Mil-dot on top for less than $1000. All brand new also.

I think it comes in the caliber you want also.

"Aim small miss small", :D

gt40
 

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As this is hunting not varmint shooting, I will guess you aren't planning on taking many shots. In that case, you can put a quality muzzle brake on just about any hunting sporter from Savage or Rem and have at it.

My personal LR hunting rifle is a Savage 7RM pushing 162gr SST or Amax at elevated velocities. No hogs up here in Canada but works just fine on large mulies.

I can spot my own shots. I have retained the orig plastic stock. With some bedding and opening up the forend, works just fine to produce a sub MOA shooter. Rifle is 10lbs on the rests.

The 300WM is another option and here I would suggest the 208gr Amax.

Why a lightly built bullet? Because you are shooting along ways out and impact velocities is way too slow for most premium bullets to open up. An SST or Ballistic Tip would also work on the "shorter" end of your distance range but might be a bit slow at 800yds.

Consider visiting longrangehunting.com for much more info. There are many articles on the home page that will answer your questions and get you set up for success.

Even some articles on how to put together a great shooting rifle for cheap.

You do need a very accurate rifle but there is more then that so enjoy these articles.

Jerry
 
Thanks everyone......let me clarify a little, I want a synthetic stock, but I want it to be smooth, no checkering. I have been looking up info on the Savage and think that is the direction I will be going. I am curious, if I go with the Savage should it be the 300 win mag or the 300 SWM? Which one will give me the best velocity on long range shots and deliver the most energy on impact? I want a gun that I can hunt with as well as plink with at the range. I am also torn on which scope to get, I am considering a Leopold Mark IV, any other inexpensive suggestions?
 
There is no real performance difference in the numbers of wm vs wsm, just the wsm is a short action with a magnum bolt face and the wm is a long action magnum. Also, the wm has a belt, and the wsm does not.

The wsm has a slightly more efficient case geometry, so, in theory, should be easier to make accurate.

There are excellent powders for either. The wm, you can get better brass for, but, again, it's still belted.
But, for hunting, I see no difference in the two.
About energy on impact, again, is irrelavent compared to accuracy.

The real question you have to ask is "can I hit a 10" circle at 800 yards?"
 
Thanks....I think I am leaning towards the SWM, I like the feel of the short action.
 
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bbradford said:
Thanks....I think I am leaning towards the SWM, I like the feel of the short action.
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I made up a 300 WSM on a Savage action with the Savage factory synthetic stock for my brother, who uses it only for hunting. The action was blue, the barrel was stainless steel with a muzzle brake. I was with him the first time he shot it... and it was at wild pigs. It performed great!

You can get your muzzle brake here:
http://harrellsprec.com/index.php?crn=208&rn=385&action=show_detail

I know one other guy that wanted a smooth stock. So, he sanded the stock then spray painted it flat black to make it look "nice" again.

Adrian
 
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