Kudos to the United States Navy!!

jackie schmidt

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Three Head Shots!! Three dead Pirates!!

One freed American Ship Captain. And as we learn more about his actions and conduct,, a true American Hero.

And, kudos to President Obama for making the command decision to allow our great Military to do it's job.......jackie

Now, let's hope he has the courage to finish the job and clean out that den of thieves for good.........jackie
 
Watched the Fox News report about the SEALS snipers, but hard to tell what is fact and what is conjecture. Would be nice to know what they were shooting, caliber, and range.

-- And if they're shooting off a rolling deck.

The word I get from Associated Press, is twenty-five yards off the fantail. Three snipers, three head shots.
 
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Jackie

jackie schmidt said:
Three Head Shots!! Three dead Pirates!!

One freed American Ship Captain. And as we learn more about his actions and conduct,, a true American Hero.

And, kudos to President Obama for making the command decision to allow our great Military to do it's job.......jackie

Now, let's hope he has the courage to finish the job and clean out that den of thieves for good.........jackie
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I agree completely!!!
 
The idiots reading the news were embarrassing, saying that the 25 meter shots were "long range" sniper shots. The seals were probably asking if they could take off their scopes, cause they couldn't tell which hair was which at 25 meters.


No matter what went down, the world is shocked that the U.S. came out on top for a change.

Well down, Navy Seals.

I got a real kick out of the rest of the story this morning. Seems what they said yesterday, ain't the same as we hear today. The pirate they were negotiating with (the 14-16 year old kid) Went on board the ship to call home. As he was eating his sandwich and waving at his buddies on the other boat, was when the seals took out his pards

I got a charge at how stupid these people where. They let them tow them cause they were drifting back to the coast where other pirates planned to kill them and take away their captive.


I guess the drugs these folks take does have and effect on the brain.
 
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It is a great story -a lot of things had to fall in place and they did, hats off to our Navy. Mr.Jackie nice of you to mention our Commander in Chief -i have tried to keep an open mind with the new guy, the President gets a +1 from me also.

The latest news i read the administration is backing off the gun ban issue -the press says they got too much heat from the NRA and other 2nd amendment groups. Have to wait and see but it is good news if true.

Not to be too groose here but the the news shows 3 shots thru the window of the orange rescue ship the captain was in. This is kinda dumb but on TV you see sniper kills thru plate glass windows. Do we have bullets that don't deflect when they hit glass. You would think the rescue capsize ship the pirates were in would have fairly thick glass.

Would you have 2 snipers in tandem, one for the glass and the next for the kill? I hope this question ain't out of line for the forum. joe :confused:
 
I think it was plastic or plexiglass, as most 20 foot craft don't use real glass for life rafts?
 
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The idiots reading the news were embarrassing, saying that the 25 meter shots were "long range" sniper shots. The seals were probably asking if they could take off their scopes, cause they couldn't tell which hair was which at 25 meters.

No matter what went down, the world is shocked that the U.S. came out on top for a change.

Well down, Navy Seals.

I got a real kick out of the rest of the story this morning. Seems what they said yesterday, ain't the same as we hear today. The pirate they were negotiating with (the 14-16 year old kid) Went on board the ship to call home. As he was eating his sandwich and waving at his buddies on the other boat, was when the seals took out his pards

I got a charge at how stupid these people where. They let them tow them cause they were drifting back to the coast where other pirates planned to kill them and take away their captive.


I guess the drugs these folks take does have and effect on the brain.
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IMO, our President did the right thing, the right way. He gave the first go ahead on Friday, a second go ahead on Saturday, and broke the camels back on Easter Sunday. He didn't go public prior to his decision. Our President has made clear to the world that we won't put up with this kind of behavior. It appears our President won't receive the credit he deserves due to so many who want him to fail. If he fails, we as a country fail.
 
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Navy Seals = The Best

I was glad to see the skipper of the American Navy ship make the decision to take the bad guys out and the Seals did what they do best; eliminating the bad guys. Cowards, pirates, terrorists never fare well when they come up against the warrior elite which is why they strike from the shadows.

I was impressed with Obama's stand and have also been keeping an open mind about him. I don't instinctively think Obama is the weak leader the press is trying to paint him as. There is something about his stance and deameanor that tells me under his surface there just may lurk a steely resolve. The world will present him with plenty of opportunity(s) to measure his full character.

Lou Baccino
 
Three cheers to the USN and SEALS, and to Obama for allowing them to do their jobs.

Interesting listening to the reporter from National People's Radio yesterday asking the Navy Vice Admiral at the news conference what those poor pirates did that deserved shooting. I'm sure that we'll have someone upset that they were killed without them actually having killed anyone on the Maersk Alabama.
 
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Geo.OR said:
Watched the Fox News report about the SEALS snipers, but hard to tell what is fact and what is conjecture. Would be nice to know what they were shooting, caliber, and range.

-- And if they're shooting off a rolling deck.

The word I get from Associated Press, is twenty-five yards off the fantail. Three snipers, three head shots.
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mmmm My guess would be Knight's Armarment SR-25 (Stoner Rifle) Mark ll MOD-0/308cal created by the "Father of the M-16" Eugene Stoner and C Reed Knight with Leupold optics.....;)

Here is a video of a SR-25 MK ll MOD 0 with night vision.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFRnHgiXWRs
 
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About time it was handled the right way.

The SEALS pretty much summed up how it should be done and, I dont know but I think thats pretty stellar shooting all things considered even if it was only 25 yards.

Many factors to consider:
1. dark
2. shooting off a moving ship
3. shooting at a live moving targe on a second moving ship
4. tremendous pressure to not screw up an get a hostage killed
5. did it 3 times nearly simultaniously
6. thru glass or plexiglass or what ever.
7. no luxury of getting close. They had to hit the X ring so a wounded pirate doesnt kill a hostage.

Funny, when I was in the USMC, there was always that inter-service rivalry and the occasional brawl and 99% of the time the sailers didnt do well. Oddly enough, none of the jarheads(myself included) ever got too mouthy when the SEALS were in the neighborhood. Calling a SEAL "seaman"(we used a different spelling) was a good way to end up with knots on your head.

Jamie
 
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About time it was handled the right way.

The SEALS pretty much summed up how it should be done and, I dont know but I think thats pretty stellar shooting all things considered even if it was only 25 yards.

Many factors to consider:
1. dark
2. shooting off a moving ship
3. shooting at a live moving targe on a second moving ship
4. tremendous pressure to not screw up an get a hostage killed
5. did it 3 times nearly simultaniously
6. thru glass or plexiglass or what ever.
7. no luxury of getting close. They had to hit the X ring so a wounded pirate doesnt kill a hostage.

Funny, when I was in the USMC, there was always that inter-service rivalry and the occasional brawl and 99% of the time the sailers didnt do well. Oddly enough, none of the jarheads(myself included) ever got too mouthy when the SEALS were in the neighborhood. Calling a SEAL "seaman"(we used a different spelling) was a good way to end up with knots on your head.

Jamie
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Do we know 100% how it went down.....I assumed 5.56 from short range in the water. Purely speculation.
 
Paul,

Im not sure if this is how it went down or not. Have you heard different? I guess the only people who really know is the people that were there and the CO getting the after-action report from this particular SEAL team.

This is simply what I am taking from a collection of different news entities and putting it together but I imagine most of it is close. They do know it was a watercraft to watercraft shot and it only makes sense for it to be dark so the SEALS would have the NVG advantage.

Could be any of those calibers but quite likely .308 or 5.56.

The rest of us will only know when the movie comes out I guess.

Either way, it turned out good for the good guys and bad for the bad guys.

Jamie
 
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I'm sure that however it went down or with what equipment the mainstream media would love to broadcast it worldwide so that our special ops people wouldn't have any sort of advantage anywhere. They have an unfair advantage that they shouldn't have which allows them to head shoot poor defenseless Somali pirates (and others too likely). :eek: We need to even things up so that the pirates/terrorists are so disadvantaged.... :rolleyes:
 
When the pirates hooked up to the Navy ship, it was over. How do you make that kind of shot in the middle of the ocean?

My thoughts -you drag to the calmest water -right down the bottom of the trough -parallel to the waves. I bet the Captain of the Navy ship knew just how to drag to the bottom of the trough -'yawin with the wave travel You would go thru where the target behind you is dead still -they ain't gonna need but seconds for the targets to "freeze".

I still would like to know how they shot thru glass/plexiglass without the bullet being deflected? I would think you would need 2 very qucik shots back to back, one to break the glass the other for the target. I looked up the Sniper rifle someone suggested.. it was a semi auto maybe even full auto??

joe :eek:
 
No, I don't know...I don't trust the media reports.

I'm pretty sure the delay for action was for 100% chance of captain survival and my thinking (only from reading Lone Survivor and other books) to get a glimpse of the SEAL mindset was that the frog men were under that boat since they touched down on the sceen.

They may not want us to know in case a future operation comes down the pipe. Initail reports were the capt. made it to the water again (under darkness) and My assumption is as soon as the he made the splash is that lead flew when the good guy was out of the line of fire.

3 prefectly and simultanious shots from two moving vessles and 3 moving noggins makes me think a wall of lead went down from both the big ship and very close range frogs......again, just playing the situation in my head.

I wouldn't be surprised if morse code from thumps on the hull....on top and on bottom were at play.

Just fascinated by this stuff and would like to know but don't really need to.

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Navy Seals

This is what Iv found out so far. The Navy Seals parashooted to the water, under the cover of darkness, swam to within 100 yrds of the Pirates and when the right oppertunity arose they took out all three pirates quickly one at a time.
 
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jackie schmidt said:
Three Head Shots!! Three dead Pirates!!

One freed American Ship Captain. And as we learn more about his actions and conduct,, a true American Hero.

And, kudos to President Obama for making the command decision to allow our great Military to do it's job.......jackie

Now, let's hope he has the courage to finish the job and clean out that den of thieves for good.........jackie
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We've been there once. I think it is all to easy to feel like we need to clean them out when what needs to be done is to make it so difficult to succeed at taking hostages they will give that up. The last thing this country needs is to get mired in another S--- Hole for years with no net results. the only way to clean that mess up is with a nuke or two.

A few years ago an entertaining gentleman presented some of us with a rant about how to make them stop. His premise was to tell them to quit or we would French Fry their kids and eat them before their eyes. His theory was folks will put up with a lot except having their kids slaughtered before their eyes. Might be interesting to try it out some place. Heaven knows they wouldn't have any compunction about doing it to us. They just haven't thought of it yet.
 
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That would never work Pete

They have their kids on the rafts also. The lives of their families don't mean very much to them.
 
Frankly I don't give a hoot who gave the order to let the Seal Team do their thing I am just happy it was done.

And my hats off to some superior shooting when the stakes were high.

Well done !!
 
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