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6 pages of insults to me is just a bit too long. Some of Bill's supporters are his worst enemy's, not purposely but unknowingly. To me you guys are loosing the Bill C. Public Relations war. When i first got on this site Bill was my hero, but it has gone way down hill, partly because of Bill partly because of his arrogant supporters. You guys have shoved Bill up my a z z so far i can smell gun smoke. You Calfeeites do your "tap dance" at the expense of other great 'Smith's. It is embarrassing how you guys treat others in the shooting community that have equal and maybe better skills than BC.
Bill supporters are probably lucky Mr. Boyer don't know how you Calfeeites are seen by a lot of people in the shooting world - my opinion your a small group disrespecting our community, if he did i doubt he would ever lay that new rifle in a competition rest.
Okay jGEE, in my opinion you are out of line and totally wrong in your assumptions. First of all this thread started as a post from on friend to another. Both knew what was being said and understood one another. It seemed like a good place for match results and I put them on the thread. My mistake. However, this thread was not started or initiated by Bill Calfee to promote himself. Trust me, he needs no promotion to sell his rifles or his services. There is no Bill Calfee public relations war. He could never be mentioned on this forum again and would do just fine selling his rifles and services.
The insults are between a group of individuals and seem to be par for the course for an internet forum. Not just this one. There's a lot of communication lost when no facial expression can be seen and a lot of things are taken the wrong way. Just the way it is. If it bothers you, don't read it. That's your right.
Calfeeites is an interesting word because I can't tell if you use it in the context of dominating Nazis or presecuted Israelites. However, I would contend there is no such thing. If someone read your comments about Calfeeites and assumed that you actually attended matches, they may also assume that there is a physical seperation of shooters into little gangs. Nothing could be further from the truth. You really need to attend a match.
Moreover, I don't understand the "tap dance" that is done at the expense of other gunsmiths. Bill Calfee will congratulate shooter's using his rifles. He's done that for years. There is nothing to stop another gunsmith from doing the same and, frankly, if they did I wouldn't blame them. It is a great verification of their work when someone wins with a gun they built. If it were me, I would be proud. Most choose not to congratulate shooters using their guns and I respect that. However, using your logic, you could come to the conclusion that they are too lazy or simply don't care. Again, I think that would be way off base.
I don't think you would find anybody using a Calfee rifle that would tell you that no other smith can build as good, or better rifle. A few that come to mind are Richard Gorham, Roger Brock, Gene Davis, and I'm sure there are others. I've seen guns built by each of these smiths clean house at matches and I have respect for their work. You can bet, however, that they have a following of shooters who would go to no other smith.
In conclusion (for that part), in case you didn't get it, your comments are off base.
As far as Mr. Boyer, I consider myself neither lucky nor unlucky if he chooses to, or not to, shoot rimfire with a Calfee rifle or any other rifle. That is his decision. I have no worship for the man and I'm sure he has none for me.
