How To Keep Spyware and Viuses Off Your Computer

Mr. D

Your out of the norm then to say you never had a problem. I've had a few over the years that locked my system up. That's why now I have gotten smart and done the things I need to hopefully prevent future problems. But to say any computer is hack free with McAfee is just unrealistic. You sir have been extremely lucky is all I will say. I'm not saying you said that either. You have just been blessed and the computer gods have watched over you. :D

BC
 
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Mr. D is mostly correct that Mac users are fairly free from virus issues.

What you need to understand is that those who write malware do it with the intent of reaching as many machines as possible.

Therefore they go after the largest use base, PC's running Windows and Outlook and Internet Explorer.

PC users can move to a smaller target by changing one or more of their platforms:
Move away from Windows to anything else.
Move away from Internet Explorer to firefox or opera
Move away from Outlook to web based email like hotmail or yahoo

But to be totally honest, the problem with Windows and virus/spyware is not a software problem. Instead the problem is normally found between the keyboard and the chair.....

An informed windows user can go months without any av/as protection if they are careful. (I know because I ran a 6 month test personally and ran a clean scan after I was done).

Sorry, computer geek here :eek:
 
If you want to avoid viruses get a Macintosh

I've been using Mac's at home and work since they arrived in the early 80s and have never had a computer virus or malware. The new OSX is designed to avoid viruses, etc. unless you invite the miscreant in. In my workplace there are mostly Macs which remain virus free with a little common sense by the users.

best, nrb
 
I'm a dummy. Mac as in Macintosh. :D Sorry for mixup Mr. D. I don't know much about them. Those computers are ancient. :p
 
With the exception of graphic work you can do anything on a PC as a Mac, and PC's are better for gamers. I have never seen a problem on any Mac I could fix with included software tools including viruses. They cost more, but they come with all the automatically updating programs that average guy will ever need! The major difference is still they are so much more intuitive to use and organize!

Most people stick to what they learned on because there us a learning curve to change over, "But once you go Mac, you'll never go back!"

I like my new iMac, see below link! The 24" iMac 2.8 GIG is the best value in my mind! Love it!

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac?mco=MTE3MDM
 
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I am with you D on the Macs. I even use them for my business. Although we have one PC for programs that will not work well on our Macs. We prefer to use our Macs. Something you get used to I guess.

Concho Bill
 
Mr. D is mostly correct that Mac users are fairly free from virus issues.

What you need to understand is that those who write malware do it with the intent of reaching as many machines as possible.

Therefore they go after the largest use base, PC's running Windows and Outlook and Internet Explorer.

PC users can move to a smaller target by changing one or more of their platforms:
Move away from Windows to anything else.
Move away from Internet Explorer to firefox or opera
Move away from Outlook to web based email like hotmail or yahoo

But to be totally honest, the problem with Windows and virus/spyware is not a software problem. Instead the problem is normally found between the keyboard and the chair.....

An informed windows user can go months without any av/as protection if they are careful. (I know because I ran a 6 month test personally and ran a clean scan after I was done).

Sorry, computer geek here :eek:

I agree with rock, although I'm not a "Geeky" as he is ...:D

Currently I run two boxes on Win XP Pro, one on Win2K and another one alternately on one of three Linux OSs', PCLinuxOS,Kubuntu and Unbuntu.

Obviously, the Linux boxes are the least likely to be infected, however since they are networked via wireless to the Win systems it entirely possible to pass infected files to Billy's stuff. Linux doesn't know its a Windows virus, its just another file to them.

Linux by the nature of its architecture is the least likely to be infected. On the extremely rare occasion it may happen, simply remove or reload the infected module. Clamv or the GUI frontend Klamv for Clamv is manually run to detect and identify any gremlins.

The trick to keeping a system clean isn't detection, but prevention. A manual scanner detects the "scene of the crime". We want to prevent the virus from entering the system all together, blocked during the process of downloading.

The answer to that...real time scanning-updating for us forgetful, lazy or risk taking folks.

Even real time scanners aren't perfect. When a new virus is detected in the wild, it may take a while till the signature detection is created, downloaded and used. Some scanners download new or updated signature files automatically, others you need to manually download the latest and greatest. It may also take a day or more until the provider writes and includes the new signature file. If you recall the "Love Letter" virus, its was 4 days until every major provider had a detection and a method to remove/repair it. I was in our IT section at the time, manually running detection-removal software on 200+ desktops and 6 NT servers wasn't fun. It was a Loooooooog day.

A real time scanner not only needs to detect, stop and remove a threat, but also have a small footprint(system load) and update automatically.

There are quite a few out there that meet those requirements. Spybot setup to run native at boot time will block 99% of spyware and malware, but you need to manually update it and manually add any new immunization detection/blocking. Avast(free) can detect,block, remove and update signature/ program files automatically without user intervention.

A firewall is alway a good item to have, locally or enabled via the router on a local networked system.

Backups are a good failsafe insurance policy. I prefer a imaged backup, a complete identical copy of the running system disk. If the system disk is infected,corrupted or just dies, I unplug the running sys disk, set the backup as the master, plug it in and I'm up an running to the point I created the image. I can then either re-ghost the sys disk or build a new replacement. It also makes going to a larger disk a snap. I use Acronis. to do incremental or a full image backups. http://www.acronis.com/

In the end, you need to do routine maintenance to stay virus,malware, adware and spyware free. You maintain you vehicle, oil changes, check tire pressure and etc, why not your computer?

Another good program is Autoruns to explore you system, but be careful using it. If you like to play, have you restore disks or have a ghosted disk handy!

Bill
 
As far as graphic work, I've gotta say that the PC box is at least darn close to the mac... And you have the added bonus of not having to deal with (L)users from the corporate world who don't understand about different file formats...

Back from '96-'96, when I was adminning a 200-user mac network, virii were VERY prevalent in the mac world. But the company lost so much market share over the years that it just stopped being fun to write for it.

I run...

Adobe CS3 (Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc.)
Corel X3
Quark Xpress (which like -nobody- uses anymore)
Mickeysoft Office
Open Office
 
Each anti virus and spy ware programs are basically the same. They are only as good as the definitions in their data base. I normally use 3 programs AND the F-Secure Security suite that is included in Charters cable Internet service. At the moment I'm using, in addition to Fsecure:

PC Tools Spy ware Doctor (Great program that can be set to run real time. It's free in the GOOGLE tools section)

Ad Aware (Still one of the best freebies)

Advanced Disk Cleaner (great garbage file destroyer)

Tweak Now Reg Cleaner Std (if it finds a registry problem, it tells you if there is any potential danger before you delete. It also backs up your registry before you remove anything)

Windows Disk Cleaner (very safe temporary file and cookie cleaner. it's under system tools)

There are a lot of disk defragmenters around now. The old version of Diskkeeper Lite has a set it and forget it function. They took that function out of their new freeware program. I have the old program on one PC, and I use Windows defrag on the other machine. No matter the program, IMO a defrag is needed weekly, or more, depending on your PC usage.

For God's sake, don't pay for ANY maintenance software, including anti virus and fire walls. I have my email on Lord knows how many forums, and I might see 5 infected emails every 12 months. Most all INTERNET providers filter malware before it sends it your way. You can use Lavasoft's firewall and AVG's anti virus and not spend a nickle.


If I were forced to buy one piece of software to protect my PC, it would be from Panda. It's very thorough and by far the easiest to use. They absolute BEST security is your brain. NEVER open an .exe program until you have scanned it, and do a GOOGLE search of the program name.


Hope that helps. I used to secure PC's, and keep up with the best Security Suites. They all have their good and bad points, and as I said above they are only as good as the malware definitions and how quickly they add them to their program.
 
And all jokes aside, think about where you're downloading crap from... What I've seen, the biggest offenders for evilware are gamer things, stuff that shares songs, etc... Pornsters like to track what you're doing - they wanna know your "viewing" habits. And some of the seemingly legit things are really the worst...
 
I did an update for spy-bot last night. I got a system crash. I talked it over with my IT guy. He told me to get it off my system NOW. It's gone.

I then remembered why I quit using spy-bot.

I'll stick to symentec and superantispyware. Works for me, I am not changing now.
 
Automatic Downloading

I find the biggest problem with performance is automatic downloading. I have my system set to never auto download anything. You would be suprised to know how much stuff gets stopped by this.
 
there are a lot of tricks that you can use, but the best is to have a good internet security system. i have for example KIS 7. it runs excellent on any OS an blocks the threats that try to harm your computer.
 
I've bee using Mac's from the early 80's and have never had problem one. I think most of the miscreants devote their time to PC's.

Plus the fact that there is no "exe" (execute) command in OS X, the Mac operating system. Thus when one downloads or opens an email any virus of spyware cannot automatically execute and activate. However, even though it will not affect the Mac, one can unknowingly forward a contaminated email and pass it on to a friends PC. I have used both PC's and Mac's since the early eighties. No mechanical problems with any of my past Dell's but plenty of work to keep Windows free of contamination. No worries on that account with the Mac. At present there is no need for anti spyware or anti-virus programs with a Mac. But...in general, Mac's cost hundreds of dollars more than their PC counterparts. Sooo....it's a decision..... There are few other products where one can get more value for their dollar than today's modern lap top or desk top computers.

virg
 
Brad:
Thanks for reminding to to update my Malwarebytes software. I also use McAfee through my ATT Dsl service. As for my lap top, I only use it when on the road or at the club. I always udate my Antivirus and Malware before I leave town, if I plan to go online to check the internet or my email. My Dell Laptop has served me well.
 
Avg

I got an email from AVG a couple of weeks offering a "Free" scan of my computer for mistakes and Viruses. I thought what the hey and clicked on it. The scan ran and found over 600 problems with my computer. A screne came up offereing a "Fix" for the problems for a mere $39.95. Being the Frugal Yankee I am, I declined but when I did, the computer went into slow motion.

Subsequently I needed to replace the anti virus on my Laptop so went to a computer repair place close to a friend's house. The repair guy told me the AVG dealie was some kind of "Virus" and I should replace the Anti Virus software. Also said I should use some sort of utility to remove Norton 's lingering software that I haven't been able to remove.

Who can one trust? and it is frustrating for a person who isn't a techie.
 
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I thought that the first rule of computing was don't trust emails from Nigerian banks, Canadian meds suppliers & anybody purtporting to be your chosen bank or software supplier.

I do test every email I receive before I download it from my ISP using freeware that I obtained from a specified site on the advice of a trusted worker in the IT industry. That software allows me to look at the email in detail, particularly the sender & the answer back routes. It's amazing how easily one can detect the BS that way. Sure, it takes a little more time & effort, but I don't get viruses & malware, period. If I want to update, software I use a proven route to a trusted web site.

To me it's simple. I don't do on line what I wouldn't do face to face, & face to face. I know what to do when I'm being offered a Rolex watch or some feelthy pictures by the guy on the street corner.
 
Mr. D is mostly correct that Mac users are fairly free from virus issues.

What you need to understand is that those who write malware do it with the intent of reaching as many machines as possible.

Therefore they go after the largest use base, PC's running Windows and Outlook and Internet Explorer.

PC users can move to a smaller target by changing one or more of their platforms:
Move away from Windows to anything else.
Move away from Internet Explorer to firefox or opera
Move away from Outlook to web based email like hotmail or yahoo

But to be totally honest, the problem with Windows and virus/spyware is not a software problem. Instead the problem is normally found between the keyboard and the chair.....

An informed windows user can go months without any av/as protection if they are careful. (I know because I ran a 6 month test personally and ran a clean scan after I was done).

Sorry, computer geek here :eek:


Rock.

'I have Kaspersky and it seems to catch what it needs to. Example: It has caught 5 viruses and 10 other threats, a total of 15. I should point out however, that I do not travel a lot on this machine...a dell , because it isn't safe to explore. I use google for news, outlook, and windows. Your advice on getting away from windows seems good.
 
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