Can't get seating measurement with gage.

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Have a Savage LRPV in 223. When I use the Stoney Point (now Hornady) gage I can't get a reading ie. can't reach the rifling. I've also tried my own split neck gage. Same thing...the bullet does not get pushed into the case at all even with the bolt closed. Is this highly unusual? Thanks.
 
Make a dummy round. No Primer or powder. Seat bullet long. Just barely started. Measure 3 times before. And after.
I have a 1:7. And shoot 69 SMK or Lapua 77.
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The easy, but not extremely accurate, method is to drop a bullet into the chamber pointy end first. This is most easily done by sliding the bullet down a cleaning rod guide, then giving it a LIGHT tap with a cleaning rod to make sure it's seated in the rifling. Then carefully insert a cleaning rod or small dowel into the muzzle until it contacts the bullet. Mark the rod (with no jag) or dowel with a sharp pencil at the muzzle, then tap the bullet out of the rifling and remove it from the chamber/action. Install the rifle's bolt, and insert the cleaning rod or dowel into the bore and push it carefully all the way until it contacts the bolt face. Mark the rod or dowel. Measure the distance between the two marks, and that will give you the maximum OAL with the bullet you used. It's not super accurate, but it's better than nothing.

If they used a reamer that cuts a very long throat, for example one that gives a single loading chamber you may not be able to get close to the rifling unless you're using 80 gr or heavier bullets. That would be sort of silly unless the barrel has a 1 in 8 or 1 in 7 twist, but manufacturers sometimes do things I think are pretty silly.
 
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Have a Savage LRPV in 223. When I use the Stoney Point (now Hornady) gage I can't get a reading ie. can't reach the rifling. I've also tried my own split neck gage.

Same thing...the bullet does not get pushed into the case at all even with the bolt closed. Is this highly unusual? Thanks.

Highly unusual ??? It sure is! Where did you get your 223 Rem MODIFIED CASE from. You do have one right ??? I've never had a problem with mine. Call Hornady at 800-338-3220 and ask for Lonnie Hummel at X208. Tell him what your problem is. If he's not available ask for one of the other Techs.
 
I have the same rifle and gauge. Never failed to get a reading. I've meaured from 53grn to 80grn. Did have a problem with the 80grn though, due to the pressure I put on the seating stem of the gauge. I agreewith "abintx", is the modified case a Hornady/Stoneypoint? I have Hornady/Stoneypoint modified cases for 22Hornet and 243WIN; once again no problems.
 
I have the same rifle and gauge. Never failed to get a reading. I've meaured from 53grn to 80grn. Did have a problem with the 80grn though, due to the pressure I put on the seating stem of the gauge. I agreewith "abintx", is the modified case a Hornady/Stoneypoint? I have Hornady/Stoneypoint modified cases for 22Hornet and 243WIN; once again no problems.

By the way, my LRPV is a 1 in 7 twist; forgot to mention that.:rolleyes:
 
I had the same gun/barrel twist combo. I did not have this problem and was able to get the bullet (a 69gra SMK) to seat touching the lands and still be in the case. BUT the barrel was crap and had a slight large spot in it. Savage replaced it with no problems.

Sounds as if you have a barrel with an incorrect throat. Call Savage and return it.

George
 
Yes, I have the correct modified case. Tomorrow I will call Hornady and ask for the guy mentioned.

If all else fails I'll try the bullet/cleaning rod method. Thanks all.
 
Sounds like the throat was cut too long. I would call Savage about returning the barrel. Am I correct? The bullet is beyond the end of the case neck when it touches the rifling? I believe that Savage uses more than one reamer to cut a chamber. It sounds like the throater may have been set too long.
 
And I have a Ruger#1v in .223 which when seated to touch the lands with a Sierra 55 gr. is barely in the case as well. Freebore?
 
done that with a split neck case and the Hornady gage Zippy.

Okay.
I am with the rest of the guys. Call Savage.
I was told a story about an M1 Garand barrel. Shot real sloppy. Gunsmith dropped a bullet down barrel. Didn't even slow down. Fell right out of barrel. Gunsmith said he likes to try a few rounds for the customer. He was glad this time. Barrel was new.
 
I called Savage a while back and they said this gun does have a lot of freebore. I think I'll wait until I get the 77gr bullets to see if I can get a measurement. I will report back in case someone else has experienced this.
 
can't get seating measurement with gauge

The cleaning rod method really works if your careful you can get it
right on the money. just use enough pressure to hold the bullet firmly with the rear short rod. That will be the point where it is just in Remember to allow for the pencil line.inside at the top and outside on the bottom at the muzzle
it works for me when i don't have my gauge with me.
 
Can you sand down a dowel or pencil with a point on it to just snuggly fit inside the neck of your split neck case. Make it 1+1/2" long and slide it into the empty unprimed case with 3/4" or more sticking out so when the shell is chambered it will push the dowel back into the case. Remove the case slowly with the bolt. There should be marks from the rifling on the pointed tip of the wood.

This should give you an "IDEA" of how much free bore you have. :D

"Aim small miss small", :D

gt40
 
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