bore scopes

Dan H

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Has anyone had a chance to compare the rather inexpensive Lyman bore scope @ about $280 with the rather expensive Hawkeye = $650-900?

Dan Honert
 
yes.
and i like it.
two things will make it more user friendly.
the shaft is about 0.19
so a 20 cal bore guide to steady it a bit, and a caliber specific shaft bushing.( it has a muzzle steady bushing)
being able to hold it steady is an issue.
those two items..and it will work well
i took pictures of the throat of a new rifle, and the maker is picking the rifle up on monday to correct the off center throat.


Has anyone had a chance to compare the rather inexpensive Lyman bore scope @ about $280 with the rather expensive Hawkeye = $650-900?

Dan Honert
 
Dan I have both and yes it works great for the money! No more bending over like with the Hawkeye and your the only one looking. You can show others and explain to them what they are seeing. So yes I recommend it! Oh and you can keep pictures of the barrel and see how bad it gets as you go. Lyman should make a lot of money with this Item. And you can use your cell phone battery pack to run it at range if there is no power.
Hope this helps!

Joe Salt
 
yes.
and i like it.
two things will make it more user friendly.
the shaft is about 0.19
so a 20 cal bore guide to steady it a bit, and a caliber specific shaft bushing.( it has a muzzle steady bushing)
being able to hold it steady is an issue.
those two items..and it will work well
i took pictures of the throat of a new rifle, and the maker is picking the rifle up on monday to correct the off center throat.

I do agree with it being a handful to hold steady, I too was thinking about a bore guide to help steady it. Where to get a caliber specific shaft bushing, would that be used when inserting shaft at the muzzle end?

Dan Honert
 
Seems to me, a fellow with a lathe and some Delrin could make a bore guide to protect the bore at the muzzle

Gee thanks Francis for the poke in the eye;) I was thinking along the lines of making one that would slip over the end of the barrel so I could hold it steady at the muzzle end. But why bother with that end when all the important information is at the chamber end, and with the barrel screwed on the action you can still see in far enough to get all the goodies, I think. My wife often say's I don't get paid enough to think, so go figure.

Dan Honert
 
Dan I have both and yes it works great for the money! No more bending over like with the Hawkeye and your the only one looking. You can show others and explain to them what they are seeing. So yes I recommend it! Oh and you can keep pictures of the barrel and see how bad it gets as you go. Lyman should make a lot of money with this Item. And you can use your cell phone battery pack to run it at range if there is no power.
Hope this helps!

Joe Salt

Thanks Joe, I already have one and was just wondering about comparisons, never having had a Hawkeye I was just wondering out loud. In my humble opinion I think it is the greatest thing since sliced bread for the price. The only downside is the fact that you are attached to the power source.

Dan Honert
 
These scopes pay for themselves real quick....See something you don't like. Stop spending money on that something. Trying to get it to shoot....
 
I've got one of the Lyman borecams to begin keeping an eye on my rifles. One thing that I'm getting is a couple shadow rings on the aft end of the screen. They seem to be mostly in the chamber area where I'm most concerned. I wouldn't call them a nuisance but they're none the less. I've cleaned the lense to no avail.
The shadows disappear as you get into the rifling so I think it has to do with lighting. I've tried adding light at the muzzle but that didn't really help.
I'm still new to it so it may just be me but am wondering if any of the guys with them have noticed it too?

Oh, & RF bore guides work great!

Keith
 
Where to get a caliber specific shaft bushing, would that be used when inserting shaft at the muzzle end?
Dan Honert

Dan,
I have a set of three brass tubes that fit one inside the other for the Hawkeye. All three tubes for 0.308, and fewer as the bore gets smaller. I have an extra set if you are interested.

Keith
 
Gee thanks Francis for the poke in the eye;) I was thinking along the lines of making one that would slip over the end of the barrel so I could hold it steady at the muzzle end. But why bother with that end when all the important information is at the chamber end, and with the barrel screwed on the action you can still see in far enough to get all the goodies, I think. My wife often say's I don't get paid enough to think, so go figure.

Dan Honert

The info from C Maier & Joe Salt is spot-on.

I will add that there is no focus provision on the Lyman DigiScope, and the focal plane is pretty narrow/shallow: holding the mirror/lens end steady enough to maintain sharp focus is an issue. I believe that Joe is talking about a nice slip-fit/bore-rider bushing just behind the mirror, on the wand, to steady the image on the focal plane, for a clear view, via eliminating pivoting induced by the corded end/handling.

Since the wand is hard-wired to the connector cord, rotating the device, is a minor issue: the cord wants to unroll. It's easier to manipulate a barrel not attached to the action/stock.

At a fraction of the cost, the Lyman device compares quite favorably with my HawkEye: though somewhat behind in image quality, the Lyman clearly displays a sharp enough image to observe any cleaning issues, or barrel flaws. I expect that either Lyman, or someone else will quickly begin supplying accessories galore - perhaps, even Bluetooth(?). ;)

Though, from order date, I waited about 8 months for mine, at <$250, it seems worth the delay.:cool: Keep 'em ON the X! RG
 
to be clear i think the wand.cam tube ..whatever., needs TWO support spots
when in use from either muzzle or breech.
roll some tape around the shaft till it barely fits the bbl, delrin/brass bushings,
and a support at the entry point either muzzle or chamber.
a primer pocket drilled case, or a 20 cal bore guide for the breech,
the guide that comes with the unit requires another hand to hold in place.
maybe two bore specific bushings from the muzzle .
yes rotating the bbl is best, but not when still in a gun stock.
 
Dan,
I have a set of three brass tubes that fit one inside the other for the Hawkeye. All three tubes for 0.308, and fewer as the bore gets smaller. I have an extra set if you are interested.

Keith

Hi Keith

Yes, I would be interested, let me know the details. I sent you a PM yesterday.

Thanks
Dan
 
to be clear i think the wand.cam tube ..whatever., needs TWO support spots
when in use from either muzzle or breech.

roll some tape around the shaft till it barely fits the bbl, delrin/brass bushings,
and a support at the entry point either muzzle or chamber.
a primer pocket drilled case, or a 20 cal bore guide for the breech,
the guide that comes with the unit requires another hand to hold in place.
maybe two bore specific bushings from the muzzle .
yes rotating the bbl is best, but not when still in a gun stock.

I agree! The focus is fixed, with a narrow depth, as opposed to adjustable, thus the need for support at both ends.
I made some [teflon] bushings, which just slip over the wand, and are held in place by tight fitting O-rings, or, dental rubberbands, positioned both fore & aft of the bushing. RG
 
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I agree! The focus is fixed, with a narrow depth, as opposed to adjustable, thus the need for support at both ends.
I made some [teflon] bushings, which just slip over the she wand, and are held in place by tight fitting O-rings, or, dental rubberbands, positioned both fore & aft of the bushing. RG


Bunch of good information, I was thinking along those lines as well Robby. I am getting those tubes from Keith as well, see how they work. I bet there will be a lot of optional equipment to be had for this little gem of a scope before very long. You have to wonder what affect it will have on the pricing of the Hawkeye. Pricing on the Weaver 36X scope comes to mind when Leupold announced their new competition series side focus scope. If I remember correctly a person could get all the Weavers he (she) wanted for $280-290 new in the box.

Dan Honert
 
Barrel makers love people with borescopes.

That is probably true Butch but, if it still shoots dots even though it looks like a dried up lake bed I,ll keep on shooting it. Once the barrel tells me it is done it doesn't get replaced. I heard a story a while back that Smiley Hensley used to buy Tony Boyer's old used up barrels and win with them, they must have had over 500 rounds on them.

Dan
 
Barrel makers love people with borescopes.

That is probably true Butch but, if it still shoots dots even though it looks like a dried up lake bed I,ll keep on shooting it. Unless the barrel tells me it is done it doesn't get replaced. I heard a story a while back that Smiley Hensley used to buy Tony Boyer's old used up barrels and win with them, they must have had over 500 rounds on them.;)

Dan
 
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That is probably true Butch but, if it still shoots dots even though it looks like a dried up lake bed I,ll keep on shooting it. Once the barrel tells me it is done it doesn't get replaced. I heard a story a while back that Smiley Hensley used to buy Tony Boyer's old used up barrels and win with them, they must have had over 500 rounds on them.;)

Dan

Dan, You know a lot of untrained eyes look down a bore and order another barrel blank.
 
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