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adamsgt

Jerry Adams
Was putting out my recycle and trash carts and was about to cut up the shipping box for my new Amp annealing machine. Had the thought that perhaps I should make sure the machine worked before disposing of the box in case I had to ship it back. So I quickly plugged it in, installed the proper pilot and proceeded to anneal about 25 .308 Lapua fired cases. Took 5 seconds per case. They looked good. However, don't use an Akro bin to drop the just annealed case in. They will melt the plastic, DUH.

Here's a picture of the brass. The focus is little off, but you can see how far up the shoulder the annealing goes. I'm thinking that this might allow me to re-use 6ppc brass that isn't too far off my current loads. Have to experiment to see how that might work.

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lol saying things like that is why primers cost so much today/
the mfg saw what people were willing to pay and wholesale went up..
and retail has not come down.
Jim Pag said:
I'd pay 2 grand for it if I had to Josh.
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josh shrum said:
I have been thinking/wanting to get one of these. Are you happy with it? Is it worth the price tag?

Thanks,
Josh
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It is a bit pricey but it is so easy to use. I can see that if you were processing really large numbers of cases, 500+, some of the propane units might be better. This one may need a cooling period after a large number of cases. But I processed those 25 cases in a few minutes with the only set-up being plugging in the machine and turning it on. I think if you're in the area of processing a hundred or so cases at a time, there's probably no issue. And it may be even more than that. Today is the first time I've used it and I think I'm going to love it. I think I'm going to take it with me to the Cactus in March. I bought a portable file box off Amazon to transport the device. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MK4TPK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Cost $40 bucks and got it free shipping the next day. I bought five pilots for different calibers when I ordered the AMP and I'm now keeping them in a Pelican 1030 box. The AMP fits well in the box with a little room to the side for the Pelican box and power cord. The power cord is detachable, by the way, so it's not swinging around when you take the AMP in and out of the box. The guys who designed this put a lot of thought into it. I may try to make a custom carry box that's a bit more sturdy later on. Who knows, maybe I can sell them if I come up with a good design.

By the way, I'm still using this box https://www.amazon.com/Vaultz-Locki...rd_wg=yLiuJ&psc=1&refRID=T199QVV36S8ZWFWP5QBR
to haul around my Farley rest and this box is still hanging in there after four years use even though it has seen some rough use. I've had to piece some of it together with pop rivets. The AMP is not heavy, but you could use this box for the AMP if you wanted to roll it. I think I prefer the first case as the roller would subject the AMP to too much jostling.
 
CMaier said:
lol saying things like that is why primers cost so much today/
the mfg saw what people were willing to pay and wholesale went up..
and retail has not come down.
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I don't agree with the premise of your remark. While most of the primers I'm using are from the days when primers were 13-17 dollars a thousand, current primer prices are coming down into the twenties some places. I'm glad I had more than enough to weather the insanity of the last eight years. I don't think sellers base their pricing on what people say they will pay but on what they will actually pay. Bit of a difference there.
 
adamsgt said:
Was putting out my recycle and trash carts and was about to cut up the shipping box for my new Amp annealing machine. Had the thought that perhaps I should make sure the machine worked before disposing of the box in case I had to ship it back. So I quickly plugged it in, installed the proper pilot and proceeded to anneal about 25 .308 Lapua fired cases. Took 5 seconds per case. They looked good. However, don't use an Akro bin to drop the just annealed case in. They will melt the plastic, DUH.

Here's a picture of the brass. The focus is little off, but you can see how far up the shoulder the annealing goes. I'm thinking that this might allow me to re-use 6ppc brass that isn't too far off my current loads. Have to experiment to see how that might work.

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Holey Schneike your resizer's set a liddle deep idn'it?
 
think what you will, i have seen what i say.
i have bought at as little as 10, but the norm today is closer to 30 plus.
go look at some known suppliers.
the big jump occurred when online sales of bricks
were at $90-100. then the mfgs jumped in with both feet.


adamsgt said:
I don't agree with the premise of your remark. While most of the primers I'm using are from the days when primers were 13-17 dollars a thousand, current primer prices are coming down into the twenties some places. I'm glad I had more than enough to weather the insanity of the last eight years. I don't think sellers base their pricing on what people say they will pay but on what they will actually pay. Bit of a difference there.
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CMaier said:
think what you will, i have seen what i say.
i have bought at as little as 10, but the norm today is closer to 30 plus.
go look at some known suppliers.
the big jump occurred when online sales of bricks
were at $90-100. then the mfgs jumped in with both feet.
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I guess my phrasing didn't accurately reflect what I intended to say. Let me try again. I don't think manufacturers are scouring web sites to see how much people will pay for their products. They will try to get as much as they can. If they've produced too much product because they think they can rape their customers, They'll end up with a lot of inventory on their hands. The law of supply and demand is a wonderful thing. There was too much demand in the past due to fear of Obama and Hillary. Things will eventually even out. I could have made a lot of money by selling some of my stash but I just drew down on it over the years. I replenish whenever something good comes along. I think that most of the time, the people who complain about the prices are the people who didn't prepare.
 
alinwa said:
Holey Schneike your resizer's set a liddle deep idn'it?
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How so Al? That's one time fired Lapua .308 that hadn't been cleaned or resized. That brass was fired in a Ruger Precision Rifle( I know that's an oxymoron) so maybe I'd better go out to my reloading shed and check the headspace on that brass with my RCBS precision mike. :confused: Well, I checked a half-dozen cases and they ran from 0 to a half thou under the nominal zero on the gauge. So, I don't know what leads you to say what you did. :confused::confused::confused: Are you thinking the necks look too long? That could be caused by the angle the camera was to the brass. Don't know what else to think.
 
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JERRY
WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT WHEN PRIMERS WENT FOR 90-100 PER 1000
everyone noticed...wholesalers and mfgs. i watched cost to the wholesales go up.
the mfgs raised prices, so the whslrs raised prices, there is no over supply.
there are still shortages
are prices lower than 4 yrs ago ...yes....are they higher than 8 years ago, yes,
will they ever go back ...NO.
THE AMERICAN SHOOTING PUBLIC SHOWED THEY WOULD PAY MORE,
and now they will.
 
Thanks for the input gentlemen. The AMP has been on my "list of stuff" for quite a while. Now if only I could stop having guns built...
 
CMaier said:
JERRY
WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT WHEN PRIMERS WENT FOR 90-100 PER 1000
everyone noticed...wholesalers and mfgs. i watched cost to the wholesales go up.
the mfgs raised prices, so the whslrs raised prices, there is no over supply.
there are still shortages
are prices lower than 4 yrs ago ...yes....are they higher than 8 years ago, yes,
will they ever go back ...NO.
THE AMERICAN SHOOTING PUBLIC SHOWED THEY WOULD PAY MORE,
and now they will.
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OK, OK, I guess I don't see what your point is. You say there is no over supply and there are still shortages. That means that demand is more than supply so the price goes up. The bottom line is that you pay the price or go without. So what? That's the way supply and demand work. I'm OK because I stocked up over a decade ago. I really, really don't understand what you're trying to say here. You put this in all caps "THE AMERICAN SHOOTING PUBLIC SHOWED THEY WOULD PAY MORE". Yeah, they showed they would pay more when they bought what they wanted. That's the way the system works.
 
adamsgt said:
How so Al? That's one time fired Lapua .308 that hadn't been cleaned or resized. That brass was fired in a Ruger Precision Rifle( I know that's an oxymoron) so maybe I'd better go out to my reloading shed and check the headspace on that brass with my RCBS precision mike. :confused: Well, I checked a half-dozen cases and they ran from 0 to a half thou under the nominal zero on the gauge. So, I don't know what leads you to say what you did. :confused::confused::confused: Are you thinking the necks look too long? That could be caused by the angle the camera was to the brass. Don't know what else to think.
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The necks look crooked....most often this is caused by over-sizing.

Must just be camera angle but look at the pic to see why I questioned it! They look wikkid crooked, as in the case mouths look like they need a trim.
 
alinwa said:
The necks look crooked....most often this is caused by over-sizing.

Must just be camera angle but look at the pic to see why I questioned it! They look wikkid crooked, as in the case mouths look like they need a trim.
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I agree that they look off, but that is just camera distortion, Ansel Adams, I am not. If you overlook the distortion, what do you think about how far down the case the annealing went? Does it look like it's too much? That is determined by how the pilot is reamed and is not adjustable. Well, that's not quite true. If you didn't screw the pilot all the way in and/or used a shim beween the pilot and the device to keep keep the case from going in deeper you could adjust that. However, from what I've read on the AMP web site, they consider the total amount of brass exposed to the induction coil to determine the program to be used. When you look at the 20 page cartridge settings chart on their web site, it's clear that they put a lot of research and effort into determining the amount of power and duration to be used for each particular cartridge. So, I can understand why they would not want the user to be able to change that arbitrarily. I am more than impressed by what they have done, I am WOWED!
 
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josh shrum said:
:D

Good point...

Wanna put a 375 Cheytac together for me? ;)
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Heck yeah. We'll have to come to terms on the reamer though, as I think it might collect some dust before I use it again. All I ask is that you put the target backstop back together if you shoot it here.......I'll leave the tractor idling for you, lol.

-Dave
 
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