acculab

j mckinnie said:
Is it repeatable?In reality I dont care what the exact weight is so long as its repeating wrongly and the desired effect occurs out on the paper.jim
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I have a penny, three scale pans, several scale weights and a couple cases full of powder setting near my scale.

Twice now I've dumped a "scale check case" full of powder into the pan and instead of my magical number of 40.04gr I saw 40.02 and once even 39.99......... (I'm checking the powder too...for hygroscopicity)

In the one case I carefully inverted the case and flicked it with my fingernail and a recalcitrant kernel of H4350 tumbled out.

The other time it was three kernels.

I leave my scale on for months, it sets under it's cover reading 00.00

I sometimes turn it off and on day by day and it reads 00.00

In my case, once I took control of the environment the scale went to rock solid repeatable.

al
 
After reading that long post on the other page

I got to wondering - - - if a person were to weigh their test weight or a bullet or anything say 100 times and record the results, wouldn't one be able to tell how "akeret" their scale was? When we get deeply into the math and programing, well, it sort of leaves limited folks like me out in the cold :(
 
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Originally Posted by MRL
Question

Are you weighing you bullets, primers, and cases to the same standards? Are you cleaning your brass between each shot to keep the internal capacity the same? If not why?
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your missing the point: we have data from several good shooters that have shown the powder of choice(n133) and a precision powder thrower are not a good mix. results that vary plus or minus 0.2....not the .1 people think/claim.

an electronic scale removes this issue...if you can load at home/secure/stable location.
why ignore an issue if it is easily(?) resolved ?

and yes i do weigh my brass, and my bullets.
i have one lot of 30 pcs of brass for one gun that has the same internal volume.
now back to chambering my 6mm beggs....

mike in co




What point am I missing? I just asked are you holding your bullets and cases to the same standard as your powder? if not why not or don't you believe it worth doing at this time?
 
MRL said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MRL
Question

Are you weighing you bullets, primers, and cases to the same standards? Are you cleaning your brass between each shot to keep the internal capacity the same? If not why?
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your missing the point: we have data from several good shooters that have shown the powder of choice(n133) and a precision powder thrower are not a good mix. results that vary plus or minus 0.2....not the .1 people think/claim.

an electronic scale removes this issue...if you can load at home/secure/stable location.
why ignore an issue if it is easily(?) resolved ?

and yes i do weigh my brass, and my bullets.
i have one lot of 30 pcs of brass for one gun that has the same internal volume.
now back to chambering my 6mm beggs....

mike in co




What point am I missing? I just asked are you holding your bullets and cases to the same standard as your powder? if not why not or don't you believe it worth doing at this time?
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Well Ok, in my case yes I HAVE weighed all of the above items..... and found them to be quite variable...... and the results were meaningless.

For ME......

Bullets compensate quite well thank you very much.

Cases? Well, IMO weighing cases is most often done prior to them even being ready to fire for effect..... but that aside weighing them later on down the line once they're usable only shows me that they vary a little in weight. The old saw about "wt = volume" is sadly flawed and so they vary in wt???? What does THAT show? As long as they GROUP and are straight, easy to maintain, that's all I care about. Others read all sorts of meaning into the results, sorting brass to a "bell curve" and such. Most of them are X-Course and F-Class and Hi-Power guys! Only capable of moa in the first place...... I only mess with things that have an effect on my groups.

Weighing primers?? Well I did it, once. But my ES was around 45fps at the time. Now that I've figured out how to get single digit ES I guess I've never gone back to it.

Maybe I should :)

al
 
Dunno why this has to be negativized :( Looks like somebody figgers I'm "downgrading another branch of the shooting sport".... we shooters are our own worst enemy.

OK OK, so I'll swab some salve......


To all you'se guys who shoot on yer bellies and hindfeet, "yer just as good of shooters as benchrest guys, even better. You're cooler and tougher and actually shoot BETTER, BR guys are wimps and old and fat and shoot off benches because they ain't got the seeds to shoot for REAL."

"And you an' I BOTH know that if'n I had one a' those guns I could shoot so good you wouldn't BELIEVE it if I tole you!"

"I just don't do it because I don't like to show off."

"BR is actually cheating cuz I don't drag a 7-ton concrete bench along when'st I'm deer hunting." (("I COULD, I just don't... cuz I'm all about fair chase."))

Ohhh, the only ones COOLER are rimfire guys, that's where the REAL sport is.... (I can't comment on airgun, never been around it)

Now go soak your heads. :D

We're shooters...

GET IT???

al
 
Bob Kingsbury said:
For quite some time, the reading on my acculab has floated both
up and down. Power filters and changed locations improved nothing.
The cover/ lid has a hole in it to allow tall items to be weighed. I
placed a piece of paper over the hole and the numbers have not
changed in 4 days. This is great, but how can it be used outside ?
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Get yourself one of the gallon size apple juice plastic jugs. Cut the bottom off. Drill a hole at the top just behind the spout. Get a small plastic funnel and glue it into the drilled hole. Take a section of any beverage straw, and cut to lenght to be just above your weight pan.
Out in the field, place this contraption over your scale/powder pan, and trickle powder down the funnel/straw to scale pan.
The straw has to be cut off, so as to be very close to the bottom of weight pan, or "splashing" will occure.

Works For Me;)
 
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