We often talked of a fun money shoot at the Williamsport range. Everybody antes up the fee, three winners from each relay in both categories advance, etc, etc until there are three left. Shoot off for one, two and three in each category- score and group.
Say 100 shooters show up. 10 relays of 10 shooters, refines to 6 relays of 10 shooters (group and score) to two relays of 9 shooters (1 for group 1 for score) to two relay of 3 shooters for each category to determine 1st 2nd and 3rd place. With some fast scoring and rearranging this could be pulled off in one day. You could have light gun on Saturday, heavy on Sunday. If the fee were say $50 per shooter , taking out a range fee, the payoff could be substantial.
Frank, I was never around for that discussion but of course, I live too close to live up there on match weekends. I don't know what potions you guys cooked up in the cauldrons at night.
I would say you should have been more vocal about that stuff but since I know you and your friends, I'll just let that alone.
Tod as far as shooting later- at Williamsport we are constrained by our lease as to how late we can shoot. 8PM on Sat and 5PM on Sun.
Here in PA the club pretty much has the ultimate agreement, but, there's a few ground rules. Give the leaseholder and the municipality no reason to become disgruntled. We are bound by an agreement, and be it just giving our word, or a written law, honoring our part is very important. Both parties dictate that we shoot only within the agreed upon times of day, so dreaming up match rules that will cause us to break those agreements is out of the question. Our current format and attendance at the WO puts us at, or near the limit now, so any intentional increase in time is just not possible. All of us at all ranges work within whatever restrictions we are bound to and this just happens to be one of ours. It's not a big deal, folks still have lots of fun here, but using more time simply isn't in the cards. Not here. If Mom and Dad say be in by midnight, They do not mean 12:01. Don't push your luck.
So for those folks reading the thread thinking that the Williamsport shooters are some sort of stick-in-the-muds or afraid of 3/4/5 target aggs, it's not that. It's just that reality sets in with our lease and agreements to the township.
Charles, one thing I never forget is score. I do talk group when discussing just cause it's sort of universally understood, but I tend to favor score myself just cause it's where I've been more fortunate in my own shooting.
After spending a few days thinking about this elimination style of scoring, boy, score really throws a stick in the spokes. Makes a guy wonder if somewhere in the last 40 years. somebody ain't already considered this sort of thing.