22 wildcats

[Ackleyredmist]

Lynn, i've been using high bc bullets for all types of game for years and for smaller animals as long as you push them out of the tube around 3200 and above there isn't any problem. i've never crippled a coyote i've hit with one

 

[marion packett]

My point is, that you consider fast twist so you can shot high bc heavy bullets to deliver energy at long ranges.

 

[Ackleyredmist]

Lynn, i do understand where you are coming from. i shoot alot of berger vld's on all sorts of game. especially groundhogs and coyotes. if you push them at decent speeds they are amazing when they hit and completely dustroll coyotes. with either case i mentioned earlier you can push an 80gr vld at speeds of a factory 22-250(realistic speed not claimed) with a 55gr. when i hit coyotes with a 95 vld out of my 243ackley it is like they were hit with a truck. and it only pushes them at 3200. i wouldn't use bullets that did not provide ethical kills. we owe that to every animal no matter what it is

 

[Paul Fielder]

Long live the king....

It's always fun to fool around with something new but after 40+ years of fooling I've settled on the 220 Swift as burning about all the powder I want to burn in a 22 centerfire. Unless you load it to the max and shoot rapid fire barrel life should not be a problem for use as a coyote gun. If you shoot more than 100 rounds per year at coyotes you are one busy honcho--or you hunt in Texas.

...another vote for the swift!!!


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We agree on something vic

 

[Ackleyredmist]

Sorry guys, the swift just doesn't fit the bill for what i'm after. i gave up shooting light bullets some time ago. everything has its own place

 

[Paul Fielder]

i gave up shooting light bullets some time ago. everything has its own place

I would move into the 6BR with a tight twist....there is nothing but high praise for this round.

Only heavy bullets I shoot in .22cal are in a .223. Never got into the hyper velocity wildcats.

Good Luck.

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[Ackleyredmist]

Paul, i already have a tight twist 243ackley so i really don't want to do another 6mm.

 

[Paul Fielder]

Paul, i already have a tight twist 243ackley so i really don't want to do another 6mm.

Well amigo...you got a good problem to have. The choices are endless. I personally would pick mine around the availability of good brass (preferably Lapua) No reason to go though all that fireforming and cut corners.

Let us know what you decide. I have moved away from wildcats (other than my .280AI and I can now get Norma brass for that) I used to enjoy sitting around forming and turning necks etc, but got lazy since the kids came along and take up all extra time these days.

Figured I can really do whatever 'I want' with factory available cases ready to go. I spend more time shooting at the ranch than I do on the bench & my hobbies drifted that way. Just can't do it all.

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[chino69]

.22-250 ai

I think a 22-250AI is about the practical limit to powder burned vs. velocity with a 22cal. It'll push 50-55gr bullets about as fast as they need to go. Over 4200 with 50's and 4000-4100 with 55's. The load in one of mine is 50's at 4247. Past that case capacity and you start burning increasingly more powder for less and less gain in velocity.

I'll second your post; I have three different barrels chambered in .22-250 AI. It will hammer any critter out there!

Lou Baccino

 

[.25shooter]

.22-243 Improoved versus .22-284

Well, considering the fact that 6-284 is badly overbore and more velosity just about cant be had from a bigger cartridge with a 6mm bullet it hardly seems to be likely that a .22-284 would give much over 22-243. Perhaps 100-200 fps with 75-80gr bullet with 10-15 gr more powder and some 25-50% loss in barrel life or so. In the real world those 100 fps will not mean anything. In Acleys book he mentions .22 Ergenboomer Loudensplitter if memory serves me and that is a 300 Winchester magnum necked down to .22 cal. For some reason that cartridge never caught much on in the gun world But then again tuning up a Porche 911 Turbo for power doesnt seem all that nessesary either

 

[Ackleyredmist]

200fps means alot past 800yds. you do have a point and i've pretty much decided on a 22-243improved. having all the brass for it i'll ever need is in its favor plus a little extra barrel life.

 

[alinwa]

Most people think the high rotation of the bullets is what makes for those exotic hits but its actually the velocity.The rotational force is negligible.
Lynn

Lynn,

While it's true that rotation doesn't show up on the big and slow VLD's it's definitely a factor on the little pills......the biggies don't pop. But until you've tried both with little bullets don't knock rotation. It's velocity AND rotation..... shoot 40's or 55's or 68's AT THE SAME VELOCITY using both twists to really see the difference.

al

 

[alinwa]

Al
I've tried both several years ago at the request of Henry Childs.All of my old 6BR barrels that I don't give away get turned into 6mm-06 and have 8-8.7 twist rates in them.I asked Henry if the rotation helped them on the explosiveness and naturaly he gave me a test rather than a answer.
I had two barrels chambered up one with a 8.5 twist and the other with a 14 twist both shooting light bullets.
As you know knocking down coyotes isn't a complicated endeavor but when slapping them down is your goal velocity is king in my opinion.
Lynn

LOL


Yeahh, I agree. You prolly won't be blowing coyotes to chunks eh I'm sure you also can't hear the difference but with the little squeerells and ground dawgs I think you will!

al