22 match ammo

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foosurdaddy

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I did do a search on here for this but found nothing useful.

Can someone please post a list of match ammo by brands that I can work with.

Im trying to sight my gun in this weekend.
When I look up some of these brands they list more then one kind of match ammo. Im not sure which one to use or if it even matters. I will be shooting 50 & 100 yds.

Thank you
Foosurdaddy
 
85% or so competitive rimfire benchrest shooters use Eley brand ammo. Another 13% or so use Lapua. (my guess on the numbers, but its close)

Dan Killough sells Eley and whatever he has at the moment is listed on his web page.

http://www.killoughshootingsports.com/Webs/ammunition.html

Of the 85% probably 96% use either Tenex (the red box) and/or EPS (the black box). Most of us buy test boxes of several lots to see if we can find some killer ammo, then buy all of that lot we can find. Our rifles are often machine and speed sensitive so it does matter. Red Box runs about $15 per 50 and Black Box is about $10 per. Plus shipping.

Eley ammo is in short supply in the states just now. We are all waiting for the April shipment to come in so we can test and buy this seasons ammo. Eley Team is also good (Blue Box) and a bit less expensive if and when you can find some to buy.

The 13% or so of us like to use Lapua ammo. Charlie Scott is a good source.
His telephone number is 913-649-7658. There are three different Lapua that folks most often use; Xact, Midas+ and Center X. Xact is about $25 a box, Midas about $15 a box and CenterX about $10 a box. Plus shipping.

Me, I keep both Eley and Lapua on hand.

The last 2% use RWS R50, RWS R100, the new Federal made by RWS and various others.

If you want ammo to play with and practice consider SK Standard Plus or Wolf Match Target. They are the same ammo in different cartons. Either will cost about $4 a box plus shipping. You can get them from Midway, Champions Supply, Champions Choice etc.

If you are interested in what the winners shoot go to the ARA and/or PSL web sites and look at the equipment lists for the bigger shoots. You will be hard pressed to find something other than Eley or Lapua. bob
 
22 Match Ammo

Bob Finger has given you a good road map.

Your question is so open ended, there could be a host of responses. As the thread expands, you may find exactly what you are looking for.

Helpful to that purpose would be to state what is the intended purpose of your .22? Plinking? Informal target shooting? Sport shooting? Or are you trying to figure out if it is a serious BR gun?

If you are not going to use it for competitive BR shooting, you might want to get a few boxes of medium priced ammo outlined by Bob. If it is a serious BR gun, you might want to start with a few boxes of high end ammo, as outlined by Bob.

Sure you know that each rimfire gun likes certain ammo (brand, type, speed) and may not like a whole lot of other ammo. Also once sighted, sure you know you need to stay with the same ammo. Once you change ammo (even lot numbers), the sighting process begins again. It is just the nature of rimfire guns.

Whatever your purpose, hope the process goes well. Doug Miller
 
I would like to expand on something Bob said to avoid some possible confusion. Bob said guns can be "machine and speed sensitive". What he means is Eley ammo is produced on 5 or 6 diffrent machines. Some guns tend to like ammo produced on one or two specific machines. The machine number is in the lot number. Now does this add to the confusion? Good luck it can be a pain sometimes to find a lot of ammo your gun likes.

John
 
This may not belong in this thread but I'll try it here anyway.

I have a question about the expression: "a rifle likes a particular ammo". I see that expression used throughout this forum but I can't seem to get a handle on it!

I think the things that make ammo inaccurate can be somewhat spelled out. Here's what I think:
1) bullet c of g or weight variation.
2) bullet deformation (size or shape variation)
3) velocity variation (powder or primer variation)
4) bullet or cartridge alignment with bore

I don't see how the gun itself could affect any of these so I suggest if the ammo is "good" in one gun it will be good in any gun. I'll admit that last one might be something corrected by one particular set of chamber and bore dimensions but when you think about it I believe we may just be talking about "bad" ammo as having dimensions small enough to cause an alignment (or possibly ignition) problem in all guns - in other words it's "bad" ammo, period.

I'm sure someone will bring up tuners effect. Tuners will smooth out variations cause by velocity variations but a tuner will not make the ammo with a big velocity difference better than one with a lower velocity variation. Again, it won't make bad ammo better than good ammo.

Bottom line is: bad ammo is going to be bad in all guns - you wont be able to find a gun that will "like" it and make it "good" simply because the things that make ammo bad can't be corrected by the gun. I might suggest the statement :"my gun likes this ammo" is probably just a belief of the shooter - not something that can be proven. I think the shooters gun will simply "like" all "good" ammo and "not like" all "bad" ammo
 
Pacecil: I think perhaps this is the first post of yours I have read that I fully agree with! Hope the sun comes up tomorrow.

Now change your word "good" to "killer or "match capable" and you will begin to see why different rifles like different bullets. It could be the barrel configuration ie twist, rifling type, tuner setting, etc etc....all qualifiers that are indeed rifle specific.

It very easy to find "good" ammo and good ammo will work well in many rifles. Killer ammo is far more difficult to obtain and may well not only be rifle specific but range/day/time/atmospheric specific. That is why we test and take several lots to the bench during a match and hope one of those lots is "killer" ammo at the time we are shooting. Some shooters are far better at finding that killer lot than others before the cease fire command is given. We usually call those folks winners. bob
 
It is true that some rifles like certain ammo best...

I say this based on my own experience and observation. I don't know why it is, but it is. Pacecil's post is interesting and I guess I could speculate on one factor that might make good ammo shoot better in one gun than in another. The powder used might have a burning rate and burning characteristic which might cause one rifle to have more harmonics than another rifle. In centerfire reloading, sometimes changing the powder or amount of powder can bring a big improvement in accuracy.
 
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