155gr Sierra vs 168 Sierra .30cal

manitou210

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I have always shot 168gr sierra's when I used to shoot hunter class with a light load of H4895,& goldmatch primers.
my gun is a Rem700 action with a Hart 25.5" 1/12 twist
Question will the 155gr sierra's group as well as the 168gr sierra's I have never tryed 155gr but have a chance to buy 1200 box at a very good price
 
Sierra's

When I started shooting .308's for serious target work I began and was quite satisfied with the 168's. My Remington averaged in the mid .3's with 168's and I was a happy camper. Then on a Willy I tried some 155's... never looked back. Second Willy was to go to the 175's... once again great results.
Buy the bullets
 
Give them at try, if the price is right how can you go wrong? If the throat of your chamber in not too long try some Speer 125 grain TNT varmint bullets. Don’t laugh, they shoot very well despite their heritage, they are cheep and thus represent a great value. If you want really great .30 cal. bullets in that weight range give Randy R. a call. Try a stiff load of 748 with the 125 Gr. TNT as this has worked in many guns, push them too hard and they will come apart in flight more so with a 10 twist. You most likely will not win a HBR or VFS Match with the Speer TNT bullets but they shoot good enough that people are dumb struck when they see the groups and I tell them what the bullets are. No I don’t shoot them in matches, only for recreation or when teaching someone how to shoot.

Individual results may vary,
Nic.
 
The 155 is designed as a 800-1000 yard bullet for Palma competition with a long shape and boat tail. That being said, I was sighting in my .308 Palma gun this weekend after making new sight bases and shot two consecutive five shot groups of 0.435"c-c at 100yds. The 200yd group was just under 0.750. This was done benched with iron sights.

Every rifle I've tried them in loves this bullet. Still, for shooting of the bench under 200yds I would try to find a 125 that works. The Sierra 125 works well and there are several benchrest oriented bullets in this weight class. A lot of Highpower shooters use the 125 TNT for the 200yd line.

Greg
 
The 168gr, 155gr Palma, and 175gr MatchKings are all exceptional bullets in .30 cal rifles. In my estimation, each one is just a little bit better in certain circumstances. In my case, I (and many thousands of other High Power shooters) use the 168gr MK over the course because it gives the best balance of accuracy, wind tolerance, and manageable recoil for the 200, 300, and 600 yard portions of the course-of-fire. Yes, there are those who have used the 155 Palma for the off-hand and sitting rapid-fire 200 yard phase, and then switch to the 168gr for the rest of the course (and every variation of the same, for many different reason, real or imagined). But, eventually, most decide to eliminate the confusion and stick to one load for the whole match. That is where the 168gr bullet shines. Remember: In the 300-yard phase, each shooter has exactly 1-minute to put ten shots on target... and that includes one reload. "Doping the wind" is quite out of the question.

Then F-class came along. This is where the 175gr really comes into it's own. There are also many who like the 155 and 168, but if you are building an F-class gun (which most do because the "over the course gun" is at a severe disadvantage to the purpose-built F-class guns), they are choosing twist rates, throats, and loaded-round LOA's that maximize the accuracy of the 175gr bullet in this specialized single-shot prone rifle.

Personally, I use all three bullets. I have an old .30-06 Winchester Model 70 Palma match rifle that purely loves the 155gr MK. And given the right conditions, on the right day, it has the potential to win matches. However, on a windy "Bodines kind of day", I would much prefer shooting 175 MK or 190 MK bullets out of my .30-338. And, when the notion hits me, I'll try to relive some of the glory-days of 600-yard slow fire prone with a friend's old Match Rifle (not in competition, because I NEED a scope). The 168gr still seems to be my best choice for this.

So, in short, I would suggest that you buy a 100-box of all three and do some concerted research into the accuracy performance with your particular gun/sport combination. One of these three bullets should work quite nicely.

BTW: There are some who will get all cranky if I mention this, but the 175gr MK does not shoot worth a hoot in my old Winchester Palma rifle. I am convinced that the 1-12" twist (at a leisurely 2700 fps) is insufficient to stabilize this bullet. The 155 Palma, however, was made for this gun. The same people doing the grouching are shooting the 175gr bullet out of a 300 Win Mag at 3100 fps. Comparing the stability to that of a 30-06, at 400 fps less, is missing the point entirely.
 
155 SMKs work great in my 308. Good stiff dose of Varget, Lapua neck sized brass and Fed 210m primers. I have also tried the Nosler Competition 155s but have quickly gone back to the SMKs.:D
 
155 vs 168 Sierra .30 cal

Heres my loads with a 12 and 14 inch twist.
150 sierra neck turned federal brass { just cleaned up}
43.5 grs H 4895 fed 205 M
155 sierra same load''' 168 sierra 41.5 grs H 4895 same brass with the fed 205M. I shot a n offical.155 with the 150 at 100 yds.
This was very accurate to 200. The 168 were pretty close to performance.
Theres less recoil with the 150s easy shooting'
I hope this helps ''''
 
Gerry,

Are you shooting special "small rifle primed" Federal brass, or did you mean 210M primers? In .308 and .30-06, I have been using Lake City Match brass exclusively. The case capacity seems to be just slightly less, but the uniformity is exceptionally good. This brass requires Large Rifle primers, and I have been using 210M primers exclusively. When I chronographed my loads, I was able to get SD's in the single digits with the 210M primers.
 
In contrast to many others, I have had little success getting real performance from 155 Sierras in comparison to 168s. At 300 meters, the 168's will group five in about 3/4 inch quite regularly (this from an 18 pound "F" class rifle built on a sleeved 40X). I have been unable to get the 155's to reliably group much under 1 1/2 inches. Typically, they produce unexplainable flyers in every group. The 150 grain MKs shoot as well or better than the 168's but are a bit wind sensitive. 154 Lapuas are also quite good. I don't know what the problem is with the 155's but they don't work for me. Regards, Bill
 
155 sierra vs 168 sierra 30 cal

ooops typo sorry 210Match primers>
I also used CCI br 2 large rifle with the same results.
both were very uniform, The rifles have 240 necks
The fed brass ran 15 to 15.5 loaded was 238 at the necks
that left .oo2 expansion.
I have been playing with a dasher I did have some of that 308 small primed brass years ago. That's long gone....
 
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