XBR @ Visalia Match

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Jeff Welker

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I wanted to share my experience shooting the new 8208 XBR in a recent competition. This past weekend we shot a Sporter and LV match at Visalia. The temps ranged from the low 50's in the morning to high 70's in the afternoon. Humidity went from the high 80's in the morning to the mid 30's in the afternoon. Winds were generally light (2 to 6 mph); however, it was switchy each day and there was the usual "noseeums". The mirage in the afternoons was tricky at times.

I shot XBR for both classes at each yardage the entire weeked. I was using Lot 4773. While tuning on Friday, I found that 30.4 grains, .030 off jam, and strong neck tension worked the best. I was shooting a 66 grain BT bullet made by Chuck Miller and a 205M primer. I played with seating depth a little during the match; however, it did not seem to make much difference.

I had my best results ever in a match. I finished 3rd in the Sporter 100, 2nd in the Sporter 200, 2nd in the Sporter Grand, 13th in the LV 200, 1st in the LV 100, 6th in the LV Grand, and 2nd in the 2-Gun. I only list my results to illustrate how XBR either helped or did not hurt my aggs.

Here are my impressions. I believe XBR wants to agg very consistently and competitively. In looking at my targets, I shot 4 "one's" at 100 yards that ranged from .129 to .190. I shot 2 "three's" and 2 "two's" at 200 yards. I also shot some very stupid targets (normal for me) and got fooled by the conditions several times. While I'm not a "dot" shooter like some (I try very hard), I would also note that I don't think XBR is going to yield a bunch of zero's or screamers - it seems to just agg.

Let me qualify all this by saying I am relatively new to short-range benchrest shooting (3 years) and I am certainly not qualified to make any definative statements about XBR. I don't use a chrono so I don't have that information. I have the good fortune to be mentored by Tom Libby and abused by Gary Ocock. Accordingly, I let my targets tell me how my components are working. So far, I give XBR a "thumbs-up" and would use it again in competition. If I understood correctly, Bill Summers was using XBR and I believe there was one other shooter also using XBR.

By the way, Dennis Tinkham kick our collective butts this past weekend.
 
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Nice shooting Jeff and...

thanks for the report. Reviews on XBR are all over the place, similar to VV133 when it became the rage of the day.

Especially good to learn Dennis Tinkham is doing well in competition...congrats Dennis!

Jim
 
thanks for the report. Reviews on XBR are all over the place, similar to VV133 when it became the rage of the day.

Especially good to learn Dennis Tinkham is doing well in competition...congrats Dennis!

Jim

Hey Jim:

This was my first time to shoot with "Tink". He is a wonderful fellow and tremendous shooter. He got 1st in Sporter 100, 1st in Sporter 200, 1st in Sporter Grand, and he won the 2-gun. Sorry, but I cannot remember what Dennis did in the LV - I am still tired from the trip home.

I wasn't in this game when 133 came on the scene; however, I'm sure there was a learning curve just like what is going on with XBR. While it may not be the "ultimate" that we all hope for, it seems to show some promise - from my limited perspective.
 
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Jim

Thanks Jim,

Just thought I would tell you that I was using the Fowler bullets I got from you last year. I'm still using N-133.

Also congrats to Jeff. He put up a tough fight. I was lucky to scrape by.

Tink
 
Thanks Jeff

At The Crawfish this past week end at Tomball, most everybody was shooting 133. Or, at least anybody that did any good.

I think what you are saying indicates that we are simply shooting the XBR too hot. Since 133 seems to thrive at 3400+, most of us think that the same should be for the new stuff.

I did not get to test the XBR before the Crawfish, shot my 30BR Sat morning, real well, then had to pick up the 6PPC for the rest of the weekend. My 6PPC was, at best, average.

I think that your experience, and from some of the feed back we are getting from other shooters such as Bob Bawden indicates that a velocity node in the low 3300 range is where this powder likes to be shot.

Thanks for the info.......jackie
 
Tinkerbell
Glad to see you back in the saddle buddy!!!
Are you going to make it back east to Union County next month?
Hope to see you there, or at Kelbly's..

Milt
 
Uncle Milton

Thanks Milt,

I guess I should be thankful I am back from anywhere after my accicent.

I won't see you until Kelblys.

Tink
 
Thankful ?
There's an understatement,kind of like a WW II Kamikaze pilot being "thankful" after walking away from a nose dive on a U.S.aircraft carrier !
Accident ?
Ruow numba wan,remove creaning rod from barro before fireing machine gun at "yankee dogs"!
"Banzai" Tinkhamsan
 
Wtf

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Thankful ?
There's an understatement,kind of like a WW II Kamikaze pilot being "thankful" after walking away from a nose dive on a U.S.aircraft carrier !
Accident ?
Ruow numba wan,remove creaning rod from barro before fireing machine gun at "yankee dogs"!
"Banzai" Tinkhamsan

)chill:)):confused::eek::mad::rolleyes:;):p:cool::D:eek:
No slant eyes????????????????:eek::eek:
 
Senile One

What are you talking about? Your senility has taken control. I said I won't see Milt UNTIL Kelblys. (That means that I will be there).

Tinki
 
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At The Crawfish this past week end at Tomball, most everybody was shooting 133. Or, at least anybody that did any good.

I think what you are saying indicates that we are simply shooting the XBR too hot. Since 133 seems to thrive at 3400+, most of us think that the same should be for the new stuff.

I did not get to test the XBR before the Crawfish, shot my 30BR Sat morning, real well, then had to pick up the 6PPC for the rest of the weekend. My 6PPC was, at best, average.

I think that your experience, and from some of the feed back we are getting from other shooters such as Bob Bawden indicates that a velocity node in the low 3300 range is where this powder likes to be shot.

Thanks for the info.......jackie
Tom Libby reminds me that that 30.2 grains of XBR worked well for Bill Summers. I've heard several comments from shooters in this area that the 30.2, 30.3, 30.4 range seems to shoot consistently.

I tend to shoot milder loads and this seems to work with the XBR. As more folks test, tune and compete with this powder; I'm sure other combinations will surface that also work.
 
Nice Shooting

Jeff

You did some mighty fine shooting my friend, you must be getting some of the Oozzer on you by osmoisis!

MAC
 
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