Walking Rest

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Jerry Adams
When I started in this game 5 or 6 years ago I bought a used JJ front rest. It has served me well but this year I got the yen for a Farley. The idea of steering azimuth and elevation with one knob became irresistible. So, this summer at Raton I bought a brand spanking new Farley rest. After using it a bit I noticed that I started to run out of windage adjustment during a match. I'd compensate by moving my rear bag a little bit to get back into the middle of movement window. I've been using the super feet under the pins on the rest. So I marked around them with a felt tip pen and could see how the rest was moving as I fired.I tried the larger feet made for rail guns but that didn't do any better. I didn't have that issue with my JJ and I'm beginning to get buyers remorse over the Farley. Anybody got any ideas on how I can stop this thing from wandering around? :confused: I tried putting water on the pads but that didn't help. And, NO, I don't want to drive the pins into concrete bench tops. That's just destructive.
 
When I tried my rubber feet on the Farley, it moved all over the place! What worked for me was to "dust" the bench before putting the feet on it. Problem gone.

I LOVE the rubber feet - makes minor adjustments a LOT easier than just the spikes.

Dennis
 
What is "dust" the bench?

I've had good luck just wiping down the bench and the feet with a wetted paper towel. They stick like glue.

al
 
We're you using the super feet under the John Loh rest?
Since you are marking the placement of the super feet on the bench, it can't be the pin angle. Have you changed your position behind the rifle? Are your shoulders still parallel to the firing line? Is the front rest at about the same place on the fore end? Try shooting without the super feet. That should cut down on one possible area of contention.
 
When I got my Farley, I was told by a few other shooters to get rid of he rubber boot that is around the joystick shaft.
 
al,

I just use an old t-shirt or whatever's handy and flap it all over the bench where I'll be putting the Farley. Same for the rear bag. Just want to get the road dust off the bench. I also make sure the rubber on the superfeet is clean.

Boyd,

I've got the benchrites on my Farley and they are superior to the OEMs by a long shot. They're more out of the way of the joy stick and are very well made.

Dennis
 
Thanks guys

Yes, I was using the super feet with the JJ and never had any problems. I bought the benchrite screws but haven't installed them yet. I'll do that ASAP. Could it be that if the angle on the pins is too acute that the points may extend through the super feet and are riding on the concrete? That thought just occurred to me. I'll have to check that out. The first time I used the Farley was at the Rattlesnake last month in Raton. I was on the second relay and sharing a bench. When I was done shooting I just pushed the rest to one side and pushed it back when it was my turn again. I started wondering if I was sanding the bottom of the feet too smooth so I quit doing that. So, the first thing to do is check the fit of the Farley screws to the super feet and then install the benchrite screw regardless. We'll see how that goes.
 
Jerry,
Is this a 30BR or a 6PPC that kicks the rest sideways? There should be little sideways force created by the 30 and even less by the 6. You might want to look beyond the rest itself to the alignment of the barrel with the stock, and to the location of the center of gravity of the gun (which should be directly under the bore, and not offset left or right). Also, if you are screwing the sides of the front bag tight to the forend, this could make the rest step up on one side, making it easier for it to walk. Are you using offset scope rings?

Hope this helps,
Keith
 
It doesn't really matter what's causing the rest to move - it needs to stop moving. Do whatever you need to do to make it stop - completely....can't move, etc... What may work on one type concrete may not work on another. Some things work anywhere. Try to find something that works anywhere. Your rest simply can't move and produce a winning score.
 
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mks said:
Jerry,
Is this a 30BR or a 6PPC that kicks the rest sideways? There should be little sideways force created by the 30 and even less by the 6. You might want to look beyond the rest itself to the alignment of the barrel with the stock, and to the location of the center of gravity of the gun (which should be directly under the bore, and not offset left or right). Also, if you are screwing the sides of the front bag tight to the forend, this could make the rest step up on one side, making it easier for it to walk. Are you using offset scope rings?

Hope this helps,
Keith
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Keith, this is a 30BR in a LV configuration. However this also happened with a 6PPC but, as you noted, to a lesser degree. I've got a new Edgewood bag for the Farley with the slick material. I'll put some sand in that and see what it does, if anything. I'm not liking the way the right knob on the rest pushes the OEM bag when tightened. A preliminary inspection of the Farley screw points and the benchrite didn't show much of a difference to the naked eye. I'll put the Benchrite on anyway. I am not using offset rings. While all this may be frustrating it's certainly not boring.
 
LV 30BR! You are a glutton for punishment.;) In addition to my earlier ideas, I would also suggest trying raising the CG of the stock closer to the bore and lowering the bore in the forend. The first will reduce the rise of the gun during recoil, and the second will reduce twisting. And tighten the sides of the bag just enough to take out the slack. If you can pick up the front rest by lifting the forend, that's way too much.
 
mks said:
LV 30BR! You are a glutton for punishment.;) In addition to my earlier ideas, I would also suggest trying raising the CG of the stock closer to the bore and lowering the bore in the forend. The first will reduce the rise of the gun during recoil, and the second will reduce twisting. And tighten the sides of the bag just enough to take out the slack. If you can pick up the front rest by lifting the forend, that's way too much.
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Well, I am a glutton but not for punishment. This whole thing has been a tragedy of errors on my part. I had been wanting a 30BR to shoot score and when I saw this one at a gun show, reason and sanity flew out of my head. It didn't even dawn on me that it was a light gun. I can handle the recoil if I get my shoulder positioned right. But, after shooting it a bit, I decided to get a .30 1-17 barrel for my HV gun and make it the score gun. When that's done I'm going to put a LV 6PPC barrel on this gun. Not my original intention but a rather expensive way to get to what should have been a modest improvement in my equipment. Since most people tell me that I should just shoot my LV all the way through group matches, I don't really need a HV 6PPC. That has a certain amount of logic to it.I can always put the PPC barrel back on the HV gun if I want to. The bolt faces on both guns will handle both cases.

OK, your last sentence just penetrated my thick Polack skull. If the bag holds the stock too tightly then too much energy is transferred to the rest which causes it to walk. DUH
 
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Starting with an LV to make an HV gun isn't necessarily a bad thing. It gives you quite a bit of flexibility to try adding weight in different places - high or low in the buttstock, in the forend, in a heavy scope and rings, under the action - you could test to your hearts content.
 
Wilbur said:
It doesn't really matter what's causing the rest to move - it needs to stop moving. Do whatever you need to do to make it stop - completely....can't move, etc... What may work on one type concrete may not work on another. Some things work anywhere. Try to find something that works anywhere. Your rest simply can't move and produce a winning score.
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Wilbur, if I could just get some dark matter from a burnt out star to add to the rest It wouldn't move ever.

Just having another errant thought. The Farley, if I recall correctly, has a wider footprint than the JJ. So that distributes the weight over a wider area? Well, I'm not that type of engineer. My expertise was in systems and software.
 
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