Throwing powder w/a rail gun

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torjy

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Seems to me those who have used rail guns could answer a lot of questions about whether you need to worry about weighing powder or just throw the stuff. Rail guns take all the variables involved with bags out of the picture and I'm certain there are shooters who've shot them in ideal conditions. So, really, how much difference does 1 or 2 grains mean in terms of accuracy with a rail gun? I'll bet there are other factors much more important.
 
A rail does not take away the wind. I assume that by grains you mean individual pieces of powder, not the unit of weight. Now a rail in a tunnel, that would answer your question.
 
Well

I was bound and determined I was going to weigh powder this year, but in all honesty, I said to heck with it this past weekend.

I shot 133 in the Rail on Saturday, I just threw the charges using the same method I have used for years, and the thing shot great in some tricky conditions. Even was lucky enough to nail a 10-shot .147 in one match.

When the tune went away in the afternoon, It would have made no difference if I would have weighed each charge to the "tenth", bad tune results in big groups.

I know this, if it is a one or two relay match, in order to weigh charges, we are going to have to demand the full time aloted by the NBRSA to load. That was the big reason I decided against it, just could not get it done fast enough.

But, Istill think weighed loads are the way to go.

I need to learn to talk less, and load more. No easy task for me:D.......jackie
 
torjy said:
Seems to me those who have used rail guns could answer a lot of questions about whether you need to worry about weighing powder or just throw the stuff. Rail guns take all the variables involved with bags out of the picture and I'm certain there are shooters who've shot them in ideal conditions. So, really, how much difference does 1 or 2 grains mean in terms of accuracy with a rail gun? I'll bet there are other factors much more important.
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Fwiw,
Gary O'cock is the best rail gun shooter I've ever seen (holds several unlimited records) and he throws his powder. If he felt that weighing was more accurate, he's be doing it because he's a competitor and hates to lose.
 
jackie schmidt said:
I know this, if it is a one or two relay match, in order to weigh charges, we are going to have to demand the full time aloted by the NBRSA to load. That was the big reason I decided against it, just could not get it done fast enough.

.......jackie
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I agree. Even if I really hustle, I can't load enough ammo fast enough in a two relay match if I use the Chargemaster. And it takes the fun away if you're trying to beat the clock all the time.
 
jackie schmidt said:
I shot 133 in the Rail on Saturday, I just threw the charges using the same method I have used for years, and the thing shot great in some tricky conditions. Even was lucky enough to nail a 10-shot .147 in one match.

When the tune went away in the afternoon, It would have made no difference if I would have weighed each charge to the "tenth", bad tune results in big groups.
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By the way, I watched a friend of mine shoot his railgun all day yesterday and he tried every trick in the book to get N133 to shoot with no luck. He shot one itty bitty group with it, then it went all over the place. Out of desperation, he threw in some XBR at a fairly light load and BINGO! Then he went back to N133 and loaded it down to the low node to get roughly the same pressure as the XBR and it still stunk! In our canyon winds, the slow load of XBR was WAY LESS wind sensitive than the upper most load of N133 he could get in the case!
 
goodgrouper said:
In our canyon winds, the slow load of XBR was WAY LESS wind sensitive than the upper most load of N133 he could get in the case!
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Ohh Geeeez, NOW ya ripped yer pants wide open! :D

You can't say a slower load is less wind sensitive, it just ain't sensible....... Everybody know that you can't be competitive below 3400. You'll get blown right off the paper, shucks, if you had to shoot in REAL conditions like out at XXXXX you'd see.... ;)

LOL

al
 
Al

There is a great amount of truth in your sarcasm. Any Benchrest Shooter knows that a well tuned load at 3200 will be MUCH less wind sensitive than a not so well tuned load at 3400.

But, a well tuned load at 3400, that's a whole different story........jackie
 
jackie schmidt said:
There is a great amount of truth in your sarcasm. Any Benchrest Shooter knows that a well tuned load at 3200 will be MUCH less wind sensitive than a not so well tuned load at 3400.

But, a well tuned load at 3400, that's a whole different story........jackie
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Absolute truth ;)

All's I'm saying is that if you can't get 3400 to make black holes, if you're nudging up on 3500 and makin' turtles, then 3250 just might pull yerass out of a sling. High range tunes can be hard to find and trying to beat the wind with SPEED is a losing battle. :)

IMO

al
 
Al

Any experienced Benchrest Shooter knows that you cannot outrun the conditions with more speed.

The reason many shoot in what has become known as "the upper window" is because that is where the best agging capability is. I shot 30.8 of 133 Sunday afternoon, (probably not supposed to say that), in 25 percent humidity, and it NAILED the agg.

Sometimes many of us do know EXACTLY what we are doing.



And, sometimes not:D............jackie
 
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