The Best Large Rifle Primers

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dogfox

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Hi,

Its now been quite long time since I have seem any in depth reviews of Large Rifle primers and just wondered if the Federal Gold Medal Primers are still at the top of the pile.

What's current thinking on this issue.

Regards

Dogfox
 
Many thanks for that info.

Well just how far have the Fed gold Medal gone down hill, having just purchased a couple boxes.

thanks

Dogfox
 
"Federal Gold Medal gone down hill" ???
How come 99% of the shooters in the match results are using them??
How many Hall of Fame points were won with the Russians last year?
 
Many Thanks thats good to hear, feel much more confident now.

But it would be nice to see an in depth report between the two makes.

Dogfox
 
What would really be unique if someone could phrase a question like what is the most popular large rifle primer, question?

How in the heck could anyone know the answer to your question? Do you think that anyone of us could answer your question, has laboratory facilities and test criteria to make such and evaluation?

Because what works for me, may not be what works for everyone else. Popular is a better word, rather than "Best".

What "works best for you"? Is a question that is not hard to answer.

Thin cup, thick cup?

Sensitivity, is the most sensitive always the best for any situation?

How many other criteria, that would factor into and answer?
 
Wow

What would really be unique if someone could phrase a question like what is the most popular large rifle primer, question?

How in the heck could anyone know the answer to your question? Do you think that anyone of us could answer your question, has laboratory facilities and test criteria to make such and evaluation?

Because what works for me, may not be what works for everyone else. Popular is a better word, rather than "Best".

What "works best for you"? Is a question that is not hard to answer.

Thin cup, thick cup?

Sensitivity, is the most sensitive always the best for any situation?

How many other criteria, that would factor into and answer?

What a great answer! Another person to avoid.
 
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"How in the heck could anyone know the answer to your question? Do you think that anyone of us could answer your question, has laboratory facilities and test criteria to make such and evaluation?"

well I am sorry if you fell like that, someone may access to a lab for all I know or a mag like "Precision shooting" might sponser an articule.

Who know's if you dont ask you dont find out.

Its been done before !
 
Precision Shooting............

has run at least two articles in the last year about the various primers available for us to use. Take a look.
 
primers

dog fox,i like federal gold medal in large and small rifle. i started using them a long time ago, because they dominated the winning component list, and they work so well for me, i didnt look at any others. i have friends shooting winchester primers in score competition and doing very well. it would probably do you well to experiment with other primers. i am having a hard time finding large rifle gold medal, so i am going to try some others in large rifle. if they work as well , some of the other brands are easier to get. i think the precision shooting magazine article on primer testing said the gold medal showed the best results. if i can find them in large rifle, i will stick with them. by the way , does anyone know where some are at right now? br
 
What one must do

is stay at least a year ahead on all components, that way, one is never needing anything. I have used Federal 210 primers straight ahead for 8 years; no Gold Medal, no BR just the regular 210's. they work superbly vs some Winchesters and some Remingtons I tried and had duds with. I haven't tried the Wolf but have been considering them although I hate Sleeping with the Enemy ! :D
 
Federal is still great...

Hi Dog fox ...I know your delima...the whole shooting world is looking for some sort of components....primer-bullet-brass-powder-etc.....I have used Fed primers (big-small-match-pistol-U name it.)...for alomost 40 yrs now and have never felt at any dis-advantage using them.....today we sometimes use brand X becuase that is all we can find.....my number 2 choice is Winchester....I got your question rite off the bat....good luk on the fireing line...Roger
 
Cabin fever maybe

Alaska Al,

I don't remember ever seeing you quite so touchy. It must be getting real cold up there. :) I do agree with your answer though.

Mr. Dog Fox,

Don't give up on us.

You might as well ask this bunch what kind of pickup is the best. You will get more answers than there are brands and every answer will be sincere.

You might ask this over on the long range forum. You might get better response if you ask something like, "What is your favorite primer?".

Concho Bill
 
Alaska Al,

I don't remember ever seeing you quite so touchy. It must be getting real cold up there. :) I do agree with your answer though.

Mr. Dog Fox,

Don't give up on us.

You might as well ask this bunch what kind of pickup is the best. You will get more answers than there are brands and every answer will be sincere.

You might ask this over on the long range forum. You might get better response if you ask something like, "What is your favorite primer?".

Concho Bill


Bill

In the immortal words of Dennis the menace, You just can't tell how deep a puddle is from the top!

How often do we see a post that asks a similar question and not once does the post state the intended use for the component? Nor are we asked how to find and answer.

In the past we have seen articles in the mags taken with strobe photos to show brioche (I never could find the spelling for that word), primer flash at the muzzle, velocities at different temperatures and primer effect with different types of powders and load densities. Type of powders, stick, ball or flake. The list of variables is a long one. We take all of this in and throw out answers to a question that is never asked.

I know my answer is a gruff one. I would like to see the question come from a point of reference and be one that has some point of reference.

Someone that is shooting a semi-auto in competition might have a different perspective than a shooter using a bolt gun in no matter the point of competition or field use.

When this question came up years ago, I took the step of first asking, what makes a match primer any different than a non-matched marked primer? I called FEDERAL and asked them this question. The answer I got was quite illuminating and made we aware that all statical data, in the end came down to a crap shoot at best.

Next we see folks weighing primers in and attempt to segregate, to achieve a better chance at uniformity. I would like people to ask themselves? How many Hall of fame shooters, Wimbledon, National Match shooters think about that, stood in the winners circle worrying about any of this crap?


I do know that in this crowd of shooters that can test any of this, most do not have the equipment nor a tunnel to test any of the factors that will influence by elimination of other factors to give positive information.

I remember setting next to the Late ED WATSON at a Super Shoot and talking about this same subject. ED had found the same results as I had using Winchester primers as we did shooting FEDAERAL Match primers for the PPC ctg.


So Bill, can you judge how deep the water is from the top of the puddle?:D
 
Why get

pissy about any of this? Many of us can only speak from our experiences. What none of us have any control over is the manufacturer of any of the components we have to buy. All we can do is to give things our best shot based on what we have experienced and feel. perhaps none of that is relevent but invariably it is to us. Why question that feeling. I think it analagous to " no one else can feel the true warmth of wetting one's self", AYE?
 
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The Gold Medal primers are apparently STILL filling military contracts so they will be hard to come by. It is my understanding that the 210s and 210Ms differ only in the color of the box they come in. It has something to do with using their best sorters but the primers are the same. I never could tell a difference between them myself. It's kinda like putting a Select match barrel on your 30-06 for deer hunting; it really doesn't hurt anything but surely isn't necessary.

As of recently, I have had the best luck with CCI BR2 in my loads and I typically use the Remingtons in Small rifle. If I get something really good going, I may experiment a little more with primers but I rarely have much luck fussing with them.

I would like to try some Wolf primers and see if I can get lower ES for the long range loads.
 
I think all of the other guys are wrong.
Remington standard large rifle primers are obviously the best.
 
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