Speaking of the 22-250.......

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I had a 22-250 Rem VSFS several years ago, and for some stupid reason I got talked into selling it.
I have just received a new Rem VS FS II in 22-250:eek:.
I know I wrote it down, but I cannot remember if it shot with the bullet jammed, touching, or off the lands.
All rifles are different, but what is the majority finding:confused:
 
Just on practical grounds having the bullet jammed on a field rifle is a good way to end up with the action and/or trigger full of powder. I'd start at just touching, and back up from there. You're going to have to work up loads anyway, so it's not that big a deal.

I haven't had a .22-250 for a LONG time, one is now a .22 BR and the other is a 6 mm BR, but the ones I had were fairly forgiving as far as the bullet's relationship to the rifling.
 
At risk of stating the obvious, I would suggest purchasing a overall length guage (sometimes called an O.A.L. guage in the catalogs) and a bullet comparator.

That way you can measure your seating and put your bullet a hundredth or two shy of the lands.

That's what I did. These tools are not real expensive.
 
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Speaking of the .22-250 ...

I did like BarrelButcher, had one, got rid of it, and now came across a 40X for .22-250. I set up 3 empty cases with the bullets seated long and kept working backwards to give me around .025 (+/-) clearence. When I started shooting the gun, this set up gave a group good enough that I've left it alone.

Now that you've got me thinking about it, just out of curosity, I think I will check on this set up again with some of the newer bulltes I have.
 
i've been loading mine just touching and it shoots great. I was jamming .0025 until i had to pull one and powder went everywhere, like Larry Elliott said. But the gun still shoots great.
 
Budman

At 2 and 1/2 thousands jam you would likely need a magnifying glass
to find land marks on your bullets. Unless you are putting bullets in
with your fingers, I doub't you could pull one.Maybe you should recheck
your method of finding jam.
 
Bob Kingsbury said:
At 2 and 1/2 thousands jam you would likely need a magnifying glass
to find land marks on your bullets. Unless you are putting bullets in
with your fingers, I doub't you could pull one.Maybe you should recheck
your method of finding jam.
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Depends on the ogive-to-leade match Bob. Many setups ONLY ALLOW up to .002 before the bullet starts to slide back into the neck. In fact it's the guy who claims "10 thou jam" that I question. :)

al
 
BarrelButcher said:
I had a 22-250 Rem VSFS several years ago, and for some stupid reason I got talked into selling it.
I have just received a new Rem VS FS II in 22-250:eek:.
I know I wrote it down, but I cannot remember if it shot with the bullet jammed, touching, or off the lands.
All rifles are different, but what is the majority finding:confused:
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Mine shoots well either way with the CT 50 grain ballistic tips. It also shoots sierra match and blitz well. Vmax are more erratic.

41 gr H380 with the 50's 14 twist

This is my 3rd 22-250

The die is set, I just let it jump liberally...not world record accuracy, but holes usually touch or very nearly. It has many 200 yard crows under its belt.

Do a serch for 22-250 and there is lots of good info around this site. Many benchrest folks are closet 22-250 addicts....with some good tips.

With dozens of benchrest and accurate rifles lying around the farm, i still grab my 22-250 when I see a coyote or crow pssing me off.

Ben
 
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I have a 700 VS, 4x16x50 B&L. First load I tried was 50gr Nosler BT's, WW cases, Fed Match Primers, 38.0 of H-380. .010 off.

First five shot group was a bug hole. I quit there.

I'd second the thing about the case length gauge. Hornady sells them. I have a set up for every rifle I own. I used to jerk around trying to mark bullets, etc. I'd suggest not wasting your time when the gauge works so much faster, easier, and is much more accurate.
 
alinwa said:
Depends on the ogive-to-leade match Bob. Many setups ONLY ALLOW up to .002 before the bullet starts to slide back into the neck. In fact it's the guy who claims "10 thou jam" that I question. :)

al[/QUOTE Using a bullet that is all taper, and some are, you could get
.030 plus . I'm only saying that .0025 contact with lands will
rare to never pull a bullet
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I'm certainly no spert compared to other company on this site but all of my guns like a jam or a jump...The kissing the lands stuff never stayed consistant on paper.


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my Rem VFFS like about .025 jump, my Savage 12 LRPV likes .031 jump, my Rem 700 ADL likes .028 jump and my buddy's Rem 700 ADL I load for likes .035 jump. I tried the 60 gr Partitions when they came out and never got them to shoot like i wanted them to but they shot best seated with the bolt, (you shot it to unloaded it because it pulled the bullet,,,,,,,,, everytime,,,and that sucked)

the wind is my friend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

DD
 
22-250 load

I also use the load Bob uses in my Rem 700 Varmit, But Sierra 52gr BTHPM
with 5 shot groups about 3/8" and less. Hornady's 52's shoot well to. Both just touching the lands... Hope this helps:)
 
I've had a lot of Rem 22/250's...

all of them liked just barely touching to .010 off for tiny groups.

When I jammed the lands, groups went to heck.

The Rem's seem to shoot tiny groups with 50-52g Bullets, however I shot yotes with the 55's with 5/8"-3/4" accuracy.

Win 760 gave the highest velocity with extreme accuracy that I tried, H380 loads are much slower than published book velocities.

Good luck!
 
10 thou jam

alinwa said:
Depends on the ogive-to-leade match Bob. Many setups ONLY ALLOW up to .002 before the bullet starts to slide back into the neck. In fact it's the guy who claims "10 thou jam" that I question. :)

al
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Al,
I've got to agree with you. How much neck tension would it take to keep the bullet from sliding back in the neck when the mechanical advantage of the bolt camming down is added?

Lou Baccino
 
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