Short Action Customs does not support neck turning

amiabledave50

amiabledave50

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I've used Short Action Custom neck bushings in my Wilson neck bushing dies for my .223 brass. I get a Max run out of .0005" using their bushings. I called Short Action Customs for .258", .259" bushings for my six PPC and my six Dasher. They don't make anything that low stating that they don't support the turning of brass. Again stating, "that it creates more problems than it solves."
That's a shame because I like SAC neck bushings because of their less aggressive taper where the brass enters. I find that the concentricity is consistently less than the Wilson bushings.
Has anyone used neck bushings from other manufacturers with GREAT results?
PostScript.... I never had a problem turning brass. Other than resharpening the carbide cutter. Which wasn't a problem but time-consuming. Thank you for your time.
 
I've heard the Micron bushings measure well. I've got a couple and have no complaints. All my record rounds and any test rounds get spun on concentricity tool to "paint" the front of the bullet with sharpie markers.
The only time I put the indicator to them is if I see or feel a wobble while painting the tip. It's crazy how small a wobble you can see and feel holding the marker tip on the bullet while spinning it.
 
well if the rifle is not built yet, bart is running some no turn neck guns with the quality of current brass...so maybe talk to him( i still turn almost everything i shoot from 222 to 338 edge)
 
rsmithsr said:
while the 262 is fine in a 6ppc,IT IS A MAJOR ERROR FOR A 6MM DASHER. i suggest you do some research on the 6b dasher before you ruin a bbl.
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You tell me, (IT'S A MAJOR ERROR FOR 6MM DASHER." RUINING THE BARREL) But don't tell me the reasoning behind your answer. GOT IT.
But curious how a barrel could possibly be ruined? It couldn't be re-chambered? Or the neck reamed out? That would be the quickest fix. Or do you mean ruining the barrel as a cataclysmic event? Something like when Bugs Bunny sticks his finger in the muzzle end of a rifle and Elmer Fudd pulls the trigger?
 
why would any adult do a dasher without FIRST doing some research ? .not so amiable when you have made a big error. simple answer i have a national championship win with my dasher. i did research BEFORE i spec'd the reamer. end of discussion.
 
Steve Kostanich said:
Actually with the brass available today, there is no need to run a .262" neck in a PPC. That dimension was a result of the Sako brass that was first used to make PPC cases, the necks were too thin to go any larger. Had nothing to do with accuracy being better.

FWIW
Steve Kostanich
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My understanding of the Seiko brass having the neck size of .262. Is because that was the final dimension in order to clean the necks up. At least that's what I was told by the old timers. Hard to believe that now I'm an old-timer. In any case, I believe any bullet runout is detrimental to accuracy. I have found Peterson brass, Alpha brass, and even Lapua brass to be out greater than .002. I cull brass that the concentricity is greater than .001. I'll keep cutting my brass whether I need to or not. Along with many other shooters.
Thank you for your input but I really wanted to know about neck sizing bushings.
 
rsmithsr said:
why would any adult do a dasher without FIRST doing some research ? .not so amiable when you have made a big error. simple answer i have a national championship win with my dasher. i did research BEFORE i spec'd the reamer. end of discussion.
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You're an arrogant man. You're arrogant to me and arrogant to other members who ask for opinions and or help. So do me a favor, if you can. Which is doubtful. If you see me asking question don't answer it. And I won't respond to you. As far as research is concerned. I could see you shooting a triple deuce wagging your finger at Pindell and Palmisano uttering, DO YOUR RESEARCH!
 
DHuffman said:
I've heard the Micron bushings measure well. I've got a couple and have no complaints. All my record rounds and any test rounds get spun on concentricity tool to "paint" the front of the bullet with sharpie markers.
The only time I put the indicator to them is if I see or feel a wobble while painting the tip. It's crazy how small a wobble you can see and feel holding the marker tip on the bullet while spinning it.
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Bought 1 from BC to test out. Thanks for the info.
 
amiabledave50 said:
You're an arrogant man. You're arrogant to me and arrogant to other members who ask for opinions and or help. So do me a favor, if you can. Which is doubtful. If you see me asking question don't answer it. And I won't respond to you. As far as research is concerned. I could see you shooting a triple deuce wagging your finger at Pindell and Palmisano uttering, DO YOUR RESEARCH!
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my comments were made while i was out of town in florida. i have just measured a dasher round of MINE. .012 WALL. NOT .008, THAT IS WITH BLOWN OUT 6br lapua brass. with the current makes of brass in 6 mm dasher, you will have to ask around, or do some research....i just do not understand why a person would have a 6mm dasher reamer made at .262. well not and call himself a benchrest shooter.
 
amiabledave50 said:
I've used Short Action Custom neck bushings in my Wilson neck bushing dies for my .223 brass. I get a Max run out of .0005" using their bushings. I called Short Action Customs for .258", .259" bushings for my six PPC and my six Dasher. They don't make anything that low stating that they don't support the turning of brass. Again stating, "that it creates more problems than it solves."
That's a shame because I like SAC neck bushings because of their less aggressive taper where the brass enters. I find that the concentricity is consistently less than the Wilson bushings.
Has anyone used neck bushings from other manufacturers with GREAT results?
PostScript.... I never had a problem turning brass. Other than resharpening the carbide cutter. Which wasn't a problem but time-consuming. Thank you for your time.
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I’ve tried multiples of many different brands and the SAC gave me the least runout. Doesn’t mean you can’t get a great one from the others.

I asked SAC if they’d consider making them in .0005 sizes and the response I got was they were proponents of sizing with an expander so that’s where they offer more sizing options.

Maybe they just need more requests for the sizes they dont make yet…
 
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