Serbian Prvi Partizan Brass

[antelopedundee]

Before buying I read a couple reviews from a few years ago where the reviewers talked about non-uniform/tight primer pockets. Apparently that's still an issue. Priming just 8 new cases, 3 or 4 were tight. If you use a Lee autoprime unit, be sure the lid is on the primer tray or you will rue the day you left it off. 25-06 cases were in short supply from Rem/Win so I bought the PBU.

 

[antelopedundee]

Anyway, I de-primed about 3 dozen old cases that had Rem 9 1/2 primers. Don't know if Mag or not but not important. I decide to re-use them with the PBU brass. The primer pockets in those cases are all over the place. Some take almost no effort and some end up with bashed primers.The cases are soft and the rims flare out [i.e. the case heads are no longer flat] even from the leverage in a Lee autoprime unit. So out of 34 primers, I ruined 5. See pics. Will try to get a few more pics tomorrow. Will try another brand of primer too.

 

[glp]

Have you tried

a different primer tool? Try your press if its setup to prime. I've had 2 Lee's and have given up on them. Tolerances and function are poor IMO. The cocked partially seated primers lead me to believe the trouble is the Lee.

Older Lee's were not rated to use Federal primers. A friend of mine did and a tray chain exploded when the primer in the seater went off. He was a lucky boy!

I've gone to K&M and find they are great. Yes, its a load one at a time routine but its not as slow as you think and a lot safer. Just a thought.

 

[antelopedundee]

a different primer tool? Try your press if its setup to prime. I've had 2 Lee's and have given up on them. Tolerances and function are poor IMO. The cocked partially seated primers lead me to believe the trouble is the Lee.

Older Lee's were not rated to use Federal primers. A friend of mine did and a tray chain exploded when the primer in the seater went off. He was a lucky boy!

I've gone to K&M and find they are great. Yes, its a load one at a time routine but its not as slow as you think and a lot safer. Just a thought.

I've got a Lee single primer tool also. I have to look and see if I have the primer attachment for my old RCBS press. Will certainly look at the K & M. It's not like I'm priming 1,000 cases a week.

Still, I'm inclined to think it's the brass since most cases primed ok. Says a lot when you can squish Remington primers like that. Will try to re-prime those cases later. See if that's still the issue.





Couple more pics.

 

[antelopedundee]

Anyway, I de-primed about 3 dozen old cases that had Rem 9 1/2 primers. Don't know if Mag or not but not important. I decide to re-use them with the PBU brass. The primer pockets in those cases are all over the place. Some take almost no effort and some end up with bashed primers.The cases are soft and the rims flare out [i.e. the case heads are no longer flat] even from the leverage in a Lee autoprime unit. So out of 34 primers, I ruined 5. See pics. Will try to get a few more pics tomorrow. Will try another brand of primer too.

I had 3 cases with squished in primers so I pushed out the primer, took my RCBS rocket deburring tool and lightly chamfered the primer pocket edge and CCI BR-2 primers seated just fine.

 

[glp]

If Lee

would just make their auto primer out of quality material with better tool tolerances it would be great unit. As it is now its a waste of $ IMO.

 

[Wilbur]

I used one of those Lee auto prime deals for a long time without a hitch. One day it quit working well and I couldn't figure out why. Bought another as they were pretty cheap at the time and it never worked well at all. Ended up going back to my sure fire, solid steel, no holds barred, priming tool. There's no tellin' how many cases that thing has primed and the last was as good as the first.

While we're here, I've got a question. The priming tools are adjustable as to how deep the primer is seated. Why would you use that adjustment rather than feeling the primer hit bottom?

 

[antelopedundee]

I used one of those Lee auto prime deals for a long time without a hitch. One day it quit working well and I couldn't figure out why. Bought another as they were pretty cheap at the time and it never worked well at all. Ended up going back to my sure fire, solid steel, no holds barred, priming tool. There's no tellin' how many cases that thing has primed and the last was as good as the first.

While we're here, I've got a question. The priming tools are adjustable as to how deep the primer is seated. Why would you use that adjustment rather than feeling the primer hit bottom?

Pretty sure the Lee I have isn't adjustable. If adjustable, why wouldn't you adjust the tool to seat to the bottom? Since primer pockets vary in tightness [and some primers may vary in diameter] you never really know when it's properly seated just by feel.

 

[Wilbur]

That's why I ask...some folks seat their primers to the same depth rather than to the bottom of the pocket. Some of the "better" seaters are adjustable...???

 

[glp]

Yes

That's why I ask...some folks seat their primers to the same depth rather than to the bottom of the pocket. Some of the "better" seaters are adjustable...???

the K&M is adjustable for seat depth, the shellholder is on a screw thread so can be finely adjusted. Also I just received some PPU brass in 3 rifle calibers. I'll seat some primers with my K&M and let you know the results.

 

[glp]

I seated

Remington 91/2 and Win large rifle primers in some Privi new 6.5x50 Jap brass. The Remington's were a tight fit...more effort to bottom them vs. the Winchester.

Measuring the two, their diameters were identical. Their thickness however was not. The Rem are about .008" deeper, resulting in the extra effort to bottom them out and make sure they are flush with the case head. I had absolutely no problems with cocked primers. I still think its your Lee tool that is to blame...the one I have and have parked has very sloppy tolerances.

 

[antelopedundee]

Remington 91/2 and Win large rifle primers in some Privi new 6.5x50 Jap brass. The Remington's were a tight fit...more effort to bottom them vs. the Winchester.

Measuring the two, their diameters were identical. Their thickness however was not. The Rem are about .008" deeper, resulting in the extra effort to bottom them out and make sure they are flush with the case head. I had absolutely no problems with cocked primers. I still think its your Lee tool that is to blame...the one I have and have parked has very sloppy tolerances.

Thanks for the update. Sounds like a replacement is the way to go. I've heard that generally speaking Remington primers are also the hardest with Federal being the softest and CCI and Winchester somewhere in between.