Norma 6 PPC brass

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Is there a reason why more people are not using Norma 6 PPC brass? I notice in the shoots results it seems like everyone is using Lapua .220 Russian fire formed for 6 PPC. If there is a good reason for this, please share it with me.

Thanks,

Jim
 
Lapua lasts longer and just seems to be better brass. There is nothing wrong with the Norma cases if that's what you choose.

This, however, is an old thought - I haven't fired a shot in years.
 
reamer should match the brass..often common reamers match lapua brass not norma.
just what i have been told

Wilbur said:
Lapua lasts longer and just seems to be better brass. There is nothing wrong with the Norma cases if that's what you choose.

This, however, is an old thought - I haven't fired a shot in years.
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You got me in an area i have only listened to.
What i remember is brass bass dia, is smaller so in
an lapua base chamber, the brass has room to expand
and so goes the pocket.
When used in a smaller chamber should work fine,
but most say why bother.
Get one of the gunsmiths to chime in.
 
Charlie/KY said:
Like Dusty said, you won't make it thru a match because the primer pocket's will enlarge when loaded hard.:(
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I've not found this to be true. I have a set of brass (25pcs) that has been used in four aggs. I'm not bashful. I run them hot. Primer pockets are still tight. Neck tension is consistent .
 
I,m with Hepburn. I shoot Norma 6ppc brass and have shot some over 20 times with no problems. I seldom shoot more than 30 grains of 133. More like 28.5 to 29.5. The internal capacity of Lapua and Norma are really close. I have annealed the Norma after 20 or so firings and continue to shoot it. Just my observation.
Maybe in the past Norma was not as good. Not sure about that. I do believe that if you hot rod any brass it won,t last.
 
CMaier said:
You got me in an area i have only listened to.
What i remember is brass bass dia, is smaller so in
an lapua base chamber, the brass has room to expand
and so goes the pocket.
When used in a smaller chamber should work fine,
but most say why bother.
Get one of the gunsmiths to chime in.
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The 6.5x284 is what youre thinking of
 
I would think first time you fired that brass it came out matching the reamer. If your sizing die matches that chamber then thats it. I'm curious about the primer pocket.
 
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No need for a priming tool but you do have to keep them bullet down in your cartridge box to make it to the line.
 
Exactly.
The primer pocket grows as the base grows.
Not to hard to figure out.

sdean said:
I would think first time you fired that brass it came out matching the reamer. If your sizing die matches that chamber then thats it. I'm curious about the primer pocket.
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A little history might be in order. The brass that was really soft and never lasted from Norma was their old stuff. That was regardless of cartridge. I personally used some of it in a wildcat 6mm based on the 22-250 and in a 22PPC as well as a 6PPC. That old stuff was BUTTERY soft and the primer pockets were toast after only a couple of firings.

If the discussion is about the most recent production of Norma 6PPC brass, I used it a couple of years ago as I did not have the time to fireform that particular season. I found it to be very consistent and long lasting. I didn't shoot as hot at that time, but the primer pockets never loosened after 12+ firings with what I'd consider middle of the road loads of 28.8-29.8gr of N133.

I cannot speak to the other cartridges Norma makes and whether they are still very soft or not. My conclusion is that for the 6mm PPC it works well enough to fill in when Lapua is not available or when time is limited for forming.
 
About 4 months ago I was looking to try some Norma brass in a barrel that I had just rechambered with a .268 neck ppc, measured neck thickness and figured I did not have to turn the necks. loaded 25 pieces of Norma brass with light load of 8208 XBR and headed off to the range! When I finished firing the brass I notice that out of the 25 cases 14 of them had crackes just about .250" up from the base, and the primers show excessive pressure signs. I still have another 25 rounds of it but I won't be using it again. I am also not ruling out that I could have made an error in not turning the necks or using too much powder etc.
 
Again, not a neck issue.
A chamber base dia issue.

Steelhead1 said:
About 4 months ago I was looking to try some Norma brass in a barrel that I had just rechambered with a .268 neck ppc, measured neck thickness and figured I did not have to turn the necks. loaded 25 pieces of Norma brass with light load of 8208 XBR and headed off to the range! When I finished firing the brass I notice that out of the 25 cases 14 of them had crackes just about .250" up from the base, and the primers show excessive pressure signs. I still have another 25 rounds of it but I won't be using it again. I am also not ruling out that I could have made an error in not turning the necks or using too much powder etc.
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Is it possible that my brass was 6ppc USA? Does Norma make both because I thought that 6ppc brass and 6ppc/usa were different dimesions? I guess I will have to make some new Lapua brass for this barrel and see how that works out!
 
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