New Rem 30
- Thread starter Pete Wass
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Look Here
Hi Pete:
http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/remington-introduces-new-30-remington-ar-cartridge/
Has cartridge diagram in article.
Jim
Hi Pete:
http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/remington-introduces-new-30-remington-ar-cartridge/
Has cartridge diagram in article.
Jim
Jerry Reisdorff
New member
Pete,
This artical has the RIM at .473 which is wrong - its .492 won't fit 308 bolt face and must be turned down.
Also it list it as having a large primer which is also wrong - it hase a small primer.
Jerry
Pete Wass
Well-known member
Thank You for this.
As some may know, I have been campaigning a short 30-284 for several years. I have used Winchester brass all of this time without any problems at all. I won a half price reamer cirtificate last year at the Nats. I planned to have the chambering I have duplicated to some degree but, I have a nine step process to make my brass. My thinking was to jump on this chambering to eliminate a few steps.
I think the data on the velocities is that which is normal for autoloaders. they don't like HOT ammo, which I found out with my .280- 742 Rem.
I have been shooting 110 to 125 bullets in mine @ around 3000 without pressure and with great accuracy. It's favorite powder has been 4197 Brigadeer. I shot about 20 lbs of it during those years. 4198 works as does Re-7 and I'm sure N-130. It's a great round! Turning the rim is a minor inconvenience
As some may know, I have been campaigning a short 30-284 for several years. I have used Winchester brass all of this time without any problems at all. I won a half price reamer cirtificate last year at the Nats. I planned to have the chambering I have duplicated to some degree but, I have a nine step process to make my brass. My thinking was to jump on this chambering to eliminate a few steps.
I think the data on the velocities is that which is normal for autoloaders. they don't like HOT ammo, which I found out with my .280- 742 Rem.
I have been shooting 110 to 125 bullets in mine @ around 3000 without pressure and with great accuracy. It's favorite powder has been 4197 Brigadeer. I shot about 20 lbs of it during those years. 4198 works as does Re-7 and I'm sure N-130. It's a great round! Turning the rim is a minor inconvenience
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nhkuehl
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Confused
What's with the 0.019" rim difference, when I look at .284 Win drawings I'm seeing a rebated .473 rim; is that incorrect? What is the source of brass for a small primer pocket on .284 Win case? nhk
Pete,
This artical has the RIM at .473 which is wrong - its .492 won't fit 308 bolt face and must be turned down.
Also it list it as having a large primer which is also wrong - it hase a small primer.
Jerry
What's with the 0.019" rim difference, when I look at .284 Win drawings I'm seeing a rebated .473 rim; is that incorrect? What is the source of brass for a small primer pocket on .284 Win case? nhk
rim dia
So you don't shoot it in a 450 Bushmaster chamber. Seem the only way to get brass is to purchase live ammo from Remington or wherever you can find it. Article in Shooting Time elabarates a little more about the cartridge.http://www.shootingtimes.com/longgun_reviews/ST_r15andthe30rar_200905/index.html Randy
So you don't shoot it in a 450 Bushmaster chamber. Seem the only way to get brass is to purchase live ammo from Remington or wherever you can find it. Article in Shooting Time elabarates a little more about the cartridge.http://www.shootingtimes.com/longgun_reviews/ST_r15andthe30rar_200905/index.html Randy
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Bob Kingsbury
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I have a 30 AR case in my hands and it measures .487 on the rim
Jerry Reisdorff
New member
Pete - I have chambered up the 30 RAR with the sholder angle set to 35 degrees. I did this to get the 45 gn of water to be able to use it in Hunter Class Score.
I did buy the Rem Ammo to get the cases and since the case needs to be fire formed I just used the Powder and bullets to do this - no waste -
I have been using 8208 XBR, 125gn burgers, and it is giving a 3000 fps with no pressure and like you said it is very accurate.
Jerry
I did buy the Rem Ammo to get the cases and since the case needs to be fire formed I just used the Powder and bullets to do this - no waste -
I have been using 8208 XBR, 125gn burgers, and it is giving a 3000 fps with no pressure and like you said it is very accurate.
Jerry
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BottleBaby
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I don't understand why Remington increased the rim diameter, supposedly to prevent firing in a .450 Bushmaster chamber. The smaller .30 RAR would not be able to build up enough pressure to do anything other than release the bullet.
Pete Wass
Well-known member
Thanks for the report Jerry.
I wondered if the "stock" case was big enough to be used in HBR. What about dies? Who did your reamer? Any chance you could email me a copy of the print? Do you find the quality of the Rem brass to be ok?
Thanks,
Pete Wass
Pete - I have chambered up the 30 RAR with the sholder angle set to 35 degrees. I did this to get the 45 gn of water to be able to use it in Hunter Class Score.
I did buy the Rem Ammo to get the cases and since the case needs to be fire formed I just used the Powder and bullets to do this - no waste -
I have been using 8208 XBR, 125gn burgers, and it is giving a 3000 fps with no pressure and like you said it is very accurate.
Jerry
I wondered if the "stock" case was big enough to be used in HBR. What about dies? Who did your reamer? Any chance you could email me a copy of the print? Do you find the quality of the Rem brass to be ok?
Thanks,
Pete Wass
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Jerry Reisdorff
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Pete yes I can send you the print when I get home - out seeing the Kids this week. As far as dies I just made up a Wilson type bullet seat-er with a Newlon neck die. The reamer is by PTG. The Rem brass so far cleaned up with just a skim cut on the neck. I am just now starting to weigh them - not bad so far ... etc
Jerry
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Cheechako
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It's probably too late now but that "new" cartridge is my old 300x25 wildcat from 15 years ago. Same shoulder angle, same length, same everything.
I still have some brass but the barrel is long ago shot out.
And yes, it was big enough for HBR. That's what I made it for. There were others very similar. The 30 Myer, 30 Fat Albert, for example.
Do you suppose I can sue Remington for royalties??
Ray
I still have some brass but the barrel is long ago shot out.
And yes, it was big enough for HBR. That's what I made it for. There were others very similar. The 30 Myer, 30 Fat Albert, for example.
Do you suppose I can sue Remington for royalties??
Ray
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