I have a suggestion,lets not talk to much about the Mid Barrel Tuners,The reason being,Over on the Centerfire forum,They are now explaining the ins & outs of Tuners & how to set them If they find out about the Mid tuners ,they will go nuts,The regular tuners have already got them in a hissy,throwing one more variable into the pot might send them over the edge,Go over & read some of the posts,We were there 10 years ago & now know the real truth.. BILL