Items in my Nathez Cart for reloading .223 need help please!

p5200

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http://www.natchezss.com/Category.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=PH&prodID=PH205205&pro (NEW)

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=LY9816049 (NEW)

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=LEE90110 (NEW)

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=RC09357
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=FP004101

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=SI1410

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=RC09210

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=WBW223RU1 Is this what I need to reload for my .223 and is everything compatible? The primers and powder I can get locally. My eyes aren't the best so should I get a set of digital scales, case trimmer, tumbler? Thanks for all advice! :) I have added several new items to cart if all looks well, I will place my order today if someone would be kind enough to check the three new cart items. Thanks very much for all the help! :)
 
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It looks like you've got .30 cal stuff in there, and Forster dies for the .308 and .30-06, but regular RCBS dies for the .223. The RCBS dies are okay, but the Forster's are likely better, and their raised expander button just makes things easier IMHO. If your eyes are giving you a problem it's likely that digital scales, and a digital caliper as opposed to a dial caliper would be likely easier to read.

If you're loading for an AR or other self loading .223 a tumbler is very handy for cleaning the brass before sizing, nearly mandatory in fact. A trimmer is necessary. A good manual, or several of them, are good to have for reference. There's not much of a problem with tool compatibility these days. Threaded dies are mostly threaded 7/8-14, and nearly everyone also makes shellholders that fit everyone else's presses. One item that I find handy is a handheld priming tool. Lee's is inexpensive and works. RCBS and Hornady make hand priming tools that are more expensive and may work slightly better. The disadvantage of the RCBS and Hornady tools is that they require standard press shellholders, while Lee uses less expensive but tool specific shellholders. There are custom priming tools that are fine pieces of equipment, and make the mass produced tools look like toys, but they're also much more expensive.

You'll find that once you get started and hooked that equipment will just sort of accumulate, because it looks neat or might work better than what you have.
 
Hi Larry, I will be reloading for just my .223 Savage 10fp bolt action but, would like to reload some for my 25-06 later on. Boy, looks like I made a mess out of that order. :eek: I will go through and remove the wrong things you mentioned and try to find the correct Forster dies and add scales and a caliper. Hopefully, I can come up with a, all, compatible and decent order today at least for my .223 so I can place it tomorrow. Sure do appreciate all the help gathering up what all I need as I am lost and hate to order things I don't need or can't use. Thanks very much! :) If anyone would have the time they could list what would be good to order for my needs I would sure appreciate it. different press or any items and brands is fine as I really have no, Idea what to order.
 
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I do not understand Larry's comment everything you listed came up correct for me for .223 not 30 cal and Forster .223 dies too. All larry's other comments are right on but for starting out you have the main products correct except a reloading manual is a must. As to reloading manual I have many but if I could only have one it would be the Lyman manual.

Dick

PS. obviously you need primers and powder also.
 
Dick,
When I looked there was some .30 cal stuff shown in one or two of the URL's. However, it wouldn't be the first time I screwed up, not even the first time the day I sent that reply. :D

As for manuals it seems like everyone wants to get all their information off the internet these days, but even if you print it off you end up with stacks of paper that in my case anyway always seem to get misplaced or lost. More manuals are always a good thing, the data and info is all bound together, and easy to find. I've got manuals from 40 years ago and keep adding to the library. Never hurts.
 
Larry
I think a new guy sitting down trying to start reloading possibly for the first timehould have a good reloading manual right in front of him not a computer. He actually should have an experienced reloader right with him when he starts out but that may not be possible. A high school friend taught me to reload in spite of being an MD. he had most of it correct.

Dick
 
p5200 . . . The one thing I found with my .223 that was very critical, is CASE LENGTH . . it caused mine to blow some cases until I found what the problem was. Be sure to check the length of the neck - you can get a small insert from Sinclair to do that. It will cost you one case, you have to cut it back .060 or .080 to put the insert in and close the bolt on, but it will give you the exact length of the neck. They say that the case should be 1.750 -1.760, but check that length and be sure just what yours is. Chamber pressures go off the chart if it is jammed into the neck area . . I am living proof of it . . now I check "Every" neck length and cut them appropriately . .
Welcome to the world of reloading . . it is a pleasure all it's own . .
 
Dick,

I had to learn all by myself, but without a manual in front of me I'd have been completely lost. If someone has an experienced friend who'll give them instruction it would be a great help. Unfortunately I didn't. Without either it's like trying to rebuild the engine in your vehicle without knowing exactly what any engine looks like.

Larry
 
I like the Lyman book quite a bit. The loads have been better than the Nosler book.

I got the drill adapter parts for the Lee trimmer. Works great. I think it trims to 1.74-1.75in.

+1 on getting primers and powder locally. You might want to get a SAMMI gauge like Dillon's for .223. They are handy when first starting out. I used one for .45 ACP.
 
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