Holy Moley!.....Krieger barrels made to your order in 1 week? !!

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VaniB

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I just visited the Krieger websight for the first time in a while to find this opening message. How long has this been in effect? That's like a dream come true.

A Note to our customers:

Due to recent changes with our new system, orders are being processed much faster than in the past and barrels are getting into production nearly the same week the orders are placed. Because of this we ask that you place your orders accurately to reduce changes.

Thank you, The Tech Support Team.

Welcome to our Website.
 
VaniB said:
I just visited the Krieger websight for the first time in a while to find this opening message. How long has this been in effect? That's like a dream come true.

A Note to our customers:

Due to recent changes with our new system, orders are being processed much faster than in the past and barrels are getting into production nearly the same week the orders are placed. Because of this we ask that you place your orders accurately to reduce changes.

Thank you, The Tech Support Team.

Welcome to our Website.
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Yes, WOW.....! More deep hole drills/rifling/reaming machines..?
Duntknow..? Amazing though... Guess that the Cucible chapter 11 fileing has not affected their supply of 416R for quick "turn around" ....?...

Tough to "spit'em out" at this rate and maintain typical Krieger quality ... Sure they are up to it.
 
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Yes, WOW.....! More deep hole drills/rifling/reaming machines..?
Duntknow..? Amazing though... Guess that the Cucible chapter 11 fileing has not affected their supply of 416R for quick "turn around" ....?...
Tough to "spit'em out" at this rate and maintain typical Krieger quality ... Sure they are up to it.




Yes, the thought entered my mind as to whether they can "spit" out products that fast and still maintain quality. I was assuming that they have increased machines and manpower, and are NOT compromising their fine quality. But, I don't really know what's going on there to cause such a major change.
 
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VaniB said:
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Yes, WOW.....! More deep hole drills/rifling/reaming machines..?
Duntknow..? Amazing though... Guess that the Cucible chapter 11 fileing has not affected their supply of 416R for quick "turn around" ....?...
Tough to "spit'em out" at this rate and maintain typical Krieger quality ... Sure they are up to it.





Am I understanding you that you are saying that they had filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy? If so, it would surely have to be bad management and/or finances and not due to the unyielding reputation and demand for their products.

Yes, the thought entered my mind as to whether they can "spit" out products that fast and still maintain quality. I was assuming that they have increased machines and manpower, and are NOT compromising their fine quality. But, I don't really know what's going on there to cause such a major change.
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Crucible Steel makes barrel steel stock.

al
 
If you are a metal supplier, you are selling a 50 ton melt at a time. If you buy anything less than 50 tons you are splitting the melt with someone else. The guy that orders the melt does the specifying of the tolerances he will except form the smelter, but you buy the whole melt at the time of delivery. You pay for the services you specify, if you want the melt to be held to a tighter standard and won't buy less, then the customer pays for it.
 
50 tons?

Wow - that makes for a BIG rifle! Must be unlimited class!
 
Pay attention to what they are saying, they don't say a barrel completed in a week. They say they can now get the barrel into "production" in around a week. This is completely different from completed. They can now start on your barrel in around a week. The last barrel I ordered (different manufacturer) was started in a week and took two weeks to complete. It looks to me like they have streamlined their computer system which processes the order.
 
sdswp5 said:
Pay attention to what they are saying, they don't say a barrel completed in a week. They say they can now get the barrel into "production" in around a week. This is completely different from completed. They can now start on your barrel in around a week. The last barrel I ordered (different manufacturer) was started in a week and took two weeks to complete. It looks to me like they have streamlined their computer system which processes the order.
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Gosh.....silly me. If only I had attended Clinton law school to recognize the subliminal meaning of "is" and words like "completed" and "production". Thanks for explaining that to me. Now I'll know not to expect the barrel in 7-10 days. :rolleyes: (Lord help me. I must be that kid who gets picked to wear the "kick me" sign.)

Krieger has quoted me 8-10 weeks in the past. Pac-nor has taken 5 weeks with me. And my last barrel with Bartlein took 8 weeks. Now I'm not saying that nobody ever received a custom barrel in 2-3 weeks, I'm simply saying it hasn't been the norm.

Unless things have slowed down in 2009 with all these major manufaturers, I assume Krieger's anouncement is something most folks would welcome. (if the quality hasn't declined) Can anybody else concur with me?
 
VaniB,
I think you need to call them to verify what you read into it. The economy hasn't caught with them and they haven't bought 10 times the machinery. It sounds a little misleading.
Butch
 
Big Al said:
If you are a metal supplier, you are selling a 50 ton melt at a time. If you buy anything less than 50 tons you are splitting the melt with someone else. The guy that orders the melt does the specifying of the tolerances he will except form the smelter, but you buy the whole melt at the time of delivery. You pay for the services you specify, if you want the melt to be held to a tighter standard and won't buy less, then the customer pays for it.
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Great info. However it has nothing to do with Crucible and how they work with their 416/416R customers. It's 12 miles down the road.
P.S. If somebody does not buy them buy September, the doors close.
Be afraid.
 
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P.S. If somebody does not buy them buy September, the doors close.
Be afraid.

This too is my concern...........! Then as practically everything else... Over seas......................:(

cale
 
Rifle barrels are done in batches..

They set up their machinery and run all of the alike calibers, then move to the next caliber, then the next and so on.

Barrels are rarely done on an individual basis. The set up cost would be prohibitive.

Nat Lambeth
 
whats wrong with this country?? We have let almost all our smelters and foundries go to other countries...we get our good aluminum from Russia, and I'm talking military aircraft grade!! The government subsidizes sugar and tobacco...give a hand to our industries before its too late.
 
caroby said:
Tough to "spit'em out" at this rate and maintain typical Krieger quality ... Sure they are up to it.
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I am going to disagree. Too many of us think that slow equals quality. If it takes a man two hours to mow and edge a lawn and do a good job, what is gained by taking all day?:)

There is nothing wrong with efficiency. It is what has made this country great.

If you know what you are doing, and Krieger does, why spend weeks doing it.

What do you think a barrel would cost it even one man with the machines that they use were to put two weeks into making a barrel? We could not afford them.

Surely they keep some barrel stock in stock to fill orders. I am sure they have their methods.

Concho Bill
 
Bill........

I said.....>>> sure they are up to it<<<....

Meaning, I'm sure they are up to reducing deliver time AND maintain Krieger quality...


cale
 
Sorry, I just got carried away with the efficiency idea. I did not mean to offend anyone.

I am glad to see such and example of great production right here in the United States.

"Yes we can!"​

Concho Bill
 
If you sell 1000 308 barrels a month and 1000 243 barrels a month you don't have much time to make the 270 barrels that sell 10 a month. You have to stop making your best sellers to make a lot of 270s and put them on their shelves for later. They have enough orders on the popular sizes that the lot is sold before completion. Every lot of steel machines differently. They have to retool and run test lots before running production. Those old Pratt & Whitney machines are not setting all over in warehouses either. I know at least one barrel maker that is running 2 shifts.
Butch
 
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