HELP!...Who Makes This Rail?

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Chism G

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Don't know who else to ask. All I know is that its an older design. Maybe some of the Old Timers will recognize the Workmanship.

Thanks

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Glenn
 
Chism G said:
Thanks Dick. Is this a positive ID for listing in the Classifieds?



Glenn
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No
Let me qualify my original statement. It looks an awful lot like my Hammonds Rail I once had. But the subsequent postings by Wilbur and Jerry make me wonder if my rail (which I sold at least 10 years ago) was a copy of a Hasecuster. The Handles on the rail I owned were different and there was one very different item I saw.

Wilbur and Jerry do your rails have the slots in the underside of the top piece? I do not recall that. If the Hasecusters have that I would say it is most likely a Hasecuster and mine was a copy (or both are copies of somebody else).

Dick
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Dick Grosbier said:
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Let me qualify my original statement. It looks an awful lot like my Hammonds Rail I once had. But the subsequent postings by Wilbur and Jerry make me wonder if my rail (which I sold at least 10 years ago) was a copy of a Hasecuster. The Handles on the rail I owned were different and there was one very different item I saw.

Wilbur and Jerry do your rails have the slots in the underside of the top piece? I do not recall that. If the Hasecusters have that I would say it is most likely a Hasecuster and mine was a copy (or both are copies of somebody else).

Dick
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Dick, mine has m some minor differences but the rail installation and bedding at the ends is exactly like mine and it does have some of those slots.

My rails carry handles are milled from solid where these are store-bought. My rail has handles like the one Wilbur is shown with on Mike Bryant's web site.

http://www.bryantcustom.com/galleries/railguns.htm

Of some of the other Freddie Hasecuster rails I've seen had variations but most of the functional features, elevation screw, Teflon (or nylon) guides and such were the same as Glenn's. His scope mounting rail is the same as mine also.

I've also seen Hasecusters with 6, 8, even 10 clamp screws on the barrel block.
 
Top is different

My top is different. It's much narrower and somewhat a rectangle. 'Mechanically' it's the same but now that I'm pinned down (and a closer look) I don't believe it's a Hasecuster.

Poor Wilbur...sittin' there with nothing but a motel towel and crapped up case necks. Looking at the corner of the towel, it appears that I did wipe 'em off at least once...probably while waiting on the commence fire command.

Call Clarence and describe it to him - he'll know what to ask to determine if it's one of his. Alternatively, you can just say that you don't know who made it but it works really good!
 
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This is getting interesting

Thanks for the responses Jerry,Dick and Wilbur. I sent Mr Hammonds an E-mail with all four photo's. I'll post his response.

Its no fun to talk about an unidentified Rail Gun. Be nice to give somebody credit for designing/building this Toy.




Glenn
 
Most of Hasecusters rails are numbered. That doesn't look like the one I had and it was his last personal one (it was not numbered). Some of Fred's had dial indicators on them also but I only believe around four were made that way.

Hovis
 
Confirmation!

I heard Back from Clarence Hammonds. It is one of his. The Toy now has the correct name.

Thanks for all the help.



Glenn
 
I also have a Hasecuster but it looks nothing like that one, I have no V-Block! The Polar action is physically bolted to the top portion of the rail. I have always thought about converting it to the V block but not sure it would be worth the effort.
 
Steelhead1 said:
I also have a Hasecuster but it looks nothing like that one, I have no V-Block! The Polar action is physically bolted to the top portion of the rail. I have always thought about converting it to the V block but not sure it would be worth the effort.
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Does this rail have a vertical problem?
 
"Unlimited Rifle(Rail Gun)

To me.the unlimited Rifle(Rail Gun) is the most unique component of Benchrest Competition. Unique in both design and function. (It doesn't look like a sophisticated Sniper Rig) No other shooting sport,that I am aware of, includes this type of platform.

What surprises me more is that there has not been much talk,on this forum, about these special tools of the trade . Why is that?




Glenn
 
Wilbur,
No I have not had a problem with vertical, but it does have a tracking issue. If I drop down to the sighter then move back up to the record it is always off and has to be continually adjusted! I have placed a small brass shim under one of the rear tracking delrin pieces. I have to continually fuss with the windage and elevation during a match. When I got this rail I had to remove the action from the top part of the rail and it was glued down with JB weld so ahen I got done cleaning and polishing the receiver I cleaned off the old JB, and mixed up some new and re-glued it, I'm thinking that the delrin pieces may need to be replaced.
 
Countersink a screw directly in the "V" and deep enough that the rail doesn't touch. In other words, make darn certain that the delrin can't move. The delrin may look flat but it gets lube underneath and the thickness changes each shot. When you pick the top off to clean, the delrin raises up, the lube "wicks" underneath and you're all set for the next series of frustration.

I've seen a couple of Polars attached that way that had the same but different problems. One would return very well but would shoot vertical till hell wouldn't have it. Somebody said they fixed one like that by machining vent holes in the sleeve....don't remember who.
 
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Unlimited(Rail Gun)

When I first started shooting Benchrest. I bought a BR Sporter Rifle and all the stuff I needed to get started. My mentor gave me some of his pointers on how to shoot Benchrest with a Bag Gun. I've told this story many times before. The first Benchrest Match I attended,I finished way at the top of the leader board amongst some veteran shooters. I thought I was born with a special talent. I came back from the match and told my Mentor what I had done and he drops a Bomb on me. His advice was, "You're not going to learn how to read the wind until you buy a Rail Gun. He went on to explain why." I didn't pay much attention to him because he had a Rail Gun that he was trying to sell. Since then,I've heard several other people say the same thing about how Rail guns improve your wind reading skills. Most of the top shooters own Rail Guns.

Some use Rail guns as a test platform for a variety of purposes. We rely on these test results. The designs for Rail Guns are limited only to the imagination of the builder,designer. There is a freedom of expression(Design) unlike any other Benchrest Class.

For some reason,you don't see much forum reference to these Icons of the Sport. Just thinking.


Glenn
 
I think a rail offers lessons in some very key elements to overall success.

  • When to start your group
  • The value of shooting like your a$$ is on fire
  • The value of good brakes
  • Lastly..how much change the rifle can tolerate. This is not an intuitive element but can be realized with a rail.

I used "offer" rather than "teach" for a reason. Some prefer to shoot their rails the same as they do their 'bag' rifles.
 
Thanks for the info Wilbur, I am goiing to try that fix because I remembered when I removed the action when I first got it I also took apart much of the base and those Delrin pieces were all gooped up in between the metal and the Delrin with whatever type of lube the previous owner was utilizing. Hopefully this modification will cure the vertical tracking issue.
 
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