Glue in VS Pillar bedding - come one come all

Vern

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I shoot short range 100/200 BR.
I have always glued in my actions.
I have noticed some threads about pillar bedding however it seems that is used mostly by score shooters and long range shooters. However there is a guy that shoots our club matches that has gone to doing it.
I have many times wished it were easy to just take the action out of the stock for different reasons.

Question is this:
Is pillar bedding as good and accurate as glue in? Or should I avoid it?

I tried doing a search but didnt find what I was looking for. If someone knows of a previous thread I would appreciate the link or key words for the look up.
Thanks
Vern

I was thinking of doing this during the off season this winter IF it was a good idea.
 
Vern,
IBS HUNTER/VARMINT HUNTER and NBRSA HUNTERscore shooters are required to screw the action in, they can't glue in by rules. Done expertly pillar and glass bedding screw in job is as accurate as glue in. A lot of VFS shootes do it because of the ease of action removal. Just get a good, accurate inch pound torque wrench and have it done by someone who builds hunter class guns or really knows what they are doing. --Greg
 
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Where in the rules does it state that actions must be screwed in or pillar bedded? I have never heard of this rule before.
Kenny
 
Years ago, at the Visalia Range, during a practice day before a match, I asked the glue or pillar question to a group that included (I think) the late Lee Six, Gary Ocock, Dennis Thornbury, and a couple of others. Lee brought up something that he liked to do, that I was unfamiliar with...pillar bedding , and then gluing. With this method the action was pillar bedded as if that would be all that was going to be done, then after prepping the surfaces it would be glued, and after that had hardened, the actions screws torqued just as for a regular pillar bedding job. Lee was a shooter as well as a stock maker, so I think that we can assume that this was not an untested idea. Opinions?
 
I think this question of the 'glue in' vs 'pillar bedded' is one that cannot be exactly answered without a scientific method of testing requiring a lot of time. There are a lot of opinionated answers out there saying one or the other is the 'best' method based on their own personal experience. I think both type of bedded rifles have seen the winner's circle...soooo...the question without some exhaustive testing will remain uninsured.

I personally like my Hunter rifle bedding done by Speedy with his cone pillar bedding method. The action cannot help but go into the stock exactly right every time.

virg
 
Thanks for all of the input.
If I decide to do the pillar bedding it does not sound like it would be a detriment.
 
Where in the rules does it state that actions must be screwed in or pillar bedded? I have never heard of this rule before.
Kenny

IBS Rules Section VI Score

C) Rifles– Hunter and Varmint Hunter:

5) No blocking or sleeving of action or barrel will be allowed, and barrel and action must be removable from the stock without destruction of the stock. Nothing may be fastened to the barrel except sights, sight bases and original manufacturer's attachments, with the exception of tape, paper, plastic or other similar material used for sole purpose of deflecting heat waves.
 
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Thanks for all of the input.
If I decide to do the pillar bedding it does not sound like it would be a detriment.

I shot Glued in actions only for around 20 years. My last three rifle builds over around the last 7 or 8 years are all pillar bedded and I will never go back. Much more convenient for chambering and changing barrels and it gives up absolutely nothing in accuracy.

Dick

BTW my friend Greg in post #2 never said VFS guns could not be glue ins.
 
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