I would like to take this opportunuty to congratulate George Carter for his flawless shooting and victory at the Super Shoot. He had to resort to an older Krieger barrel that has about 2500 rounds through it in order to win the 2-gun. He like many others shot Lowell Hottenstein's 68 grain BT bulets pushed by 8208 (not XBR) powder. Also, Vera shot very well and enabled the couple to win the husband/wife competition. Great shooting...James
George Carter shot superbly!
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CYanchycki
Club Coordinator
Hey James was that a barrel he had on his rifle or he switched to?
I take it was a barrel he had LOTS OF FAITH in???????
Calvin
I take it was a barrel he had LOTS OF FAITH in???????
Calvin
Stephen Perry
New member
calvin
There are no tomato stakes in my backyard. I would return to any of my 25+ barrels anyday anytime if desired. If they won for me once they can again. I learned how to clean and recover a benchrest barrel from my first smith Harvey Martin ages ago. Calvin what were th wining aggs for George, Gene, and Bart? I haven't had time to view the complete results. thanks.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR
There are no tomato stakes in my backyard. I would return to any of my 25+ barrels anyday anytime if desired. If they won for me once they can again. I learned how to clean and recover a benchrest barrel from my first smith Harvey Martin ages ago. Calvin what were th wining aggs for George, Gene, and Bart? I haven't had time to view the complete results. thanks.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR
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Stephen are you going to share your cleaning secrets that Harvey told you about years ago?
Gary
Gary
Stephen Perry
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4 in 1
Probably not, I shared them on 6mmbr and they sicked the dogs on me, said they use Conservative cleaning methods on 6mmBR, like nylon brushes, cleaners that don't have ammonia, tampons up the petutie while they hope and pray they didn't scratch their Bartlein barrels. My cleaning methods to say the least are aggresive old Hoppes, Sweets, 3 in 1 oil. My cleaning thread is still there on 6mmBR under my name in the archive section. I guess Paul blew his cool when I mentioned using old Hoppes, Sweets, drano, steel wool, and toothpaste to recover an ignored BR barrel and make it near new so you can win again with that once shiny tube you slept with before a big shoot. And of coarse new stiff brass cleaning brushes some times a .27 cal or a .30 cal brush in a 6 cal barrel and a stiff 6 brush in a 22 barrel. Patches I use 1 3/4 and 1 3/8in for barrels 6 and 1 3/8 and 1 1/4 in or 22 barrels. If patches have a hard time passing through a barrel I cut the corners off or change rod tips. One thing Harvey never taught me was using rubbing alcohol on patches I am a disciple on using rubbing alcohol. After you patch out with rubbing alcohol your first shot will hit where your last shot hit the last group given a similar condition. I also leave my lube on the bullets that I make, no dry bullets down my barrels. This allows a shooter to shoot on the record target immediately if you like the condition and if it hits where you figure you can run your group without going to the sighter. I don't ignore the sighter but 1-2 minutes in a condition will allow you to shoot the best group of the day. Sometimes that snake group as Harvey called them will help you win the agg and the grand agg. Harvey was my smith and best friend before he passed.
In the 70's brite bore brushes were the brush, still have some. Also short stiff cleaning rods Parker Hale then Dewey now and I use Russ Haydon bore guides also the Hall bore guide I have for my Hall action. Just pretend I didn't say some of this stuff. thanks.
Stephen Perry
Angeles Br
Probably not, I shared them on 6mmbr and they sicked the dogs on me, said they use Conservative cleaning methods on 6mmBR, like nylon brushes, cleaners that don't have ammonia, tampons up the petutie while they hope and pray they didn't scratch their Bartlein barrels. My cleaning methods to say the least are aggresive old Hoppes, Sweets, 3 in 1 oil. My cleaning thread is still there on 6mmBR under my name in the archive section. I guess Paul blew his cool when I mentioned using old Hoppes, Sweets, drano, steel wool, and toothpaste to recover an ignored BR barrel and make it near new so you can win again with that once shiny tube you slept with before a big shoot. And of coarse new stiff brass cleaning brushes some times a .27 cal or a .30 cal brush in a 6 cal barrel and a stiff 6 brush in a 22 barrel. Patches I use 1 3/4 and 1 3/8in for barrels 6 and 1 3/8 and 1 1/4 in or 22 barrels. If patches have a hard time passing through a barrel I cut the corners off or change rod tips. One thing Harvey never taught me was using rubbing alcohol on patches I am a disciple on using rubbing alcohol. After you patch out with rubbing alcohol your first shot will hit where your last shot hit the last group given a similar condition. I also leave my lube on the bullets that I make, no dry bullets down my barrels. This allows a shooter to shoot on the record target immediately if you like the condition and if it hits where you figure you can run your group without going to the sighter. I don't ignore the sighter but 1-2 minutes in a condition will allow you to shoot the best group of the day. Sometimes that snake group as Harvey called them will help you win the agg and the grand agg. Harvey was my smith and best friend before he passed.
In the 70's brite bore brushes were the brush, still have some. Also short stiff cleaning rods Parker Hale then Dewey now and I use Russ Haydon bore guides also the Hall bore guide I have for my Hall action. Just pretend I didn't say some of this stuff. thanks.
Stephen Perry
Angeles Br
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Butch Lambert
Active member
Gary,
Stevie is full of something and I don't know if it is knowledge.
Butch
Stevie is full of something and I don't know if it is knowledge.
Butch
Stephen Perry
New member
Butch
That's for me to know and for you to find out.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR
That's for me to know and for you to find out.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR
