Anyone USe a "Change Stock Gun"

rkittine

rkittine

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I have a 40X that qualifies as Factory Class. Does it make any sense to have a Pillar Bedded Benchrest Stock available to change over and then shoot in Heavy Varmint with better bag riding? Don't expect to be a winner, just want to get more trigger time and hate to have too much of a disadvantage. The gun is in 6mmBR Norma. I do have one of the 3" Flat front forend adapters that attaches via the front swivel stud, that I got from Sinclair that I could use also.

Thanks, Bob
 
Depends on what size group the rifle will shoot. I'd use the 3" plate and stop right there until I got ready to build an all out Benchrest rifle. While a "better" stock sounds good...it may not actually be better but it might allow you to shoot a big group more quickly. I wrote that in an attempt to be funny but there's some truth there nonetheless.

I'll ask....what size group will your rifle shoot on average?
 
Is your 40x stock the walnut stock with that (sort of), beaver tail forearm with the rounded corners.

If so, I doubt you would see much difference. But as Wilbur said, the 3 inch plate will do the trick.

The bigger problem is the butt stock, with it's generous taper. Most Benchrest stocks cut that taper to a minimum requitred by the rules.
 
The 40X Came from the New Remington Custom Shop at Dakota Arms with a Targetmaster (Rutland Thumbhole Stock). The test target that they sent me shot with Lapua 90 grain 6mmBR Norma ammo measured .368" at 100 yards and was with a Bushnell 3x9 1" Scope mounted temporarily. It now has a 30mm 8x32 Sightron SIII scope on it.

Bob
 
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You should be able to shoot a little better with that 3" plate and the right load. Thing is, and I could be wrong, the rifle will shoot BEST stocked properly for the game you shoot but if it's not a winning rifle your money is wasted. There's not a big difference in 12th place and 22nd place if you are a competitor....start with the plate and see how that works out.
 
Yep, I am hoping to do better "As Is" with a better scope and handloads. I will try the plate first and see what happens. Bob
 
Another thing is it all depends upon what kind of competition you are going to do. Local club matches with shoot what you bring type matches are one thing. Registered IBS or NBRSA matches another. It's really hard to compete against full blown benchrest rifles in registered matches with a gun that's not similar to what is being shot. The good thing is though that it will let you get your feet wet and let you see whether you even like that type of competition and then you can decide what equipment you need to compete if you so choose.
 
One thing to add to Mike's post....until you have fired a couple of targets with a really good rifle you may not be able to see the game as it really is. Please keep that in mind as you continue.
 
Thanks everyone.

Mike, as I said, I want to meet some more people and learn more about the game and get more trigger time. My understanding is that the Cherry Ridge shoots are not registered shoots and I am no where near ready to compete. I did take the Williamsport 1,000 yard course and joined Williamsport. I intend to take Bob White's clinic and shoot in the winter league with a 6PPC.

Wilbur , I have a full custom built Borden rifle. 6.5x47L BRM Action with RB/LP/RE, Krieger 1:8 twist 29" Barrel, throated for 130 grain VLDs. Jewel Trigger blue printed and timed by Jim Borden and set to 1 1/2 ounce, Tracker African Obeche Laminated Stock, 12x42 Night Force Bench Rest Scope, Borden Dove Tail Bases and Kelbly Rings, just making Light (1,000 yard) Benchrest and am able to hold 4 1/2 inch groups at 1,000 yards with Berger 130 grain VLDs over 41.3 grains of H4350 and CCI 450 Primers with 4 thousandths crush. Not winning level, but I can shoot fairly well and have this and other true custom builds. My questions about this rifle are regarding getting in shooting two classes in one day for 100 yard Benchrest. Factory (I am actually shocked that a 40X out of the new custom shop would qualify, but then this is not a sanctioned event), which none of my other BR rifles would qualify as and then a simple conversion to Heavy Varmint. I can't make weight with my others and they are not offering Unlimited at Cherry Ridge. Bob White has a discontinued, drop in H&S Stock for this rifle with pillar bedding, which I was considering for my "Change Stock".

Cheers, Bob
 

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Wilbur,

Where are you in Tennessee? I used to live in Franklin and belonged to the Nashville Gun Club and also shot at the Monsanto Plant on the Piney River and at Fort Campbell over the border into Kentucky.

Bob
 
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I'm in Spring City...about halfway between Chattanooga and Knoxville and a little west of a straight line.
 
rkittine said:
I have a 40X that qualifies as Factory Class. Does it make any sense to have a Pillar Bedded Benchrest Stock available to change over and then shoot in Heavy Varmint with better bag riding? Don't expect to be a winner, just want to get more trigger time and hate to have too much of a disadvantage. The gun is in 6mmBR Norma. I do have one of the 3" Flat front forend adapters that attaches via the front swivel stud, that I got from Sinclair that I could use also.

Thanks, Bob
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I tried the stock changing at my first match. Actually it was a joint effort where Kent Bennett and I pooled our resources. The match was the Crawfish at the old Hub City range (Lafayette, LA) and the year was 1996. I had a Remington 700 with a Varmint wt Hart barrel chambered in .222 mag. and with a Jewell 1.5 oz trigger. Kent had a 40X fiberglass stock and a 36X Leupold. We put all of this together and headed to Lafayette. The first person that we met was Dan Dowling and when we told him that we planned to use a "live varmint" rifle chambered in .222 mag, he said, "You will get your a$$ kicked, but you will learn a lot.

There were about 115 shooters at that match and I decided to load and let Kent shoot since we only had the one rifle. Well, Dan was right, but Kent and I did not finish last. After this first match, I ordered a Farley RB/LP and started accumulating equipment in order to be a "real" Benchrest shooter. Well, that was 20 years ago and I am not sure if I will ever be a real Benchrest shooter. James Mock PS- The .222 Mag could shoot in the 1's with great conditions and it accounted for quite a number of p'dogs.
 
Thanks JD, I don't expect to do much more than learn, but Dakota Arms does (IMO) a much better job than the old Remington Custom Shop did on building 40x rifles. I'll post some targets when I have done some shooting. I used to live in Monroe, LA and was a member of the Pine Hill Gun Club that changed it's name to the Toby Bancroft Sr. Memorial Gun Club. I worked for T.O. Bancroft, Jr. at the time.

Bob
 
Bob, our paths may have not crossed, but they came close. I spent two years at Ft. Campbell back in the 60's and I live about 32 miles SE of Monroe now. James Mock
 
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