Anyone ever use gunbroker?

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Jackson~in~GA

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Well, I finally decided to give gun broker a chance, and bid on some items. Well I won a bid on a "NEW" take off 700 barrel that had a harrel's break installed on it. Well the barrel get's here today, and I look at the brake and it appears to have powder residue in the ports. Well I run a patch thru it and it comes out black. So I wet a patch with Hoppes #9 and ran it followed by some dry patches and they all come out with copper on them. So appearantly I got shafted. I just emailed the seller to tell him the barrel was not new as advertised. I have yet to leave feed back, and wondering if anyone else has run into this before and how best to handle it. Thanks ~Jackson
 
I'm not defending your seller, but every factory rifle I bought (only 2, but it applies to both) showed up dirty and obviously fired from the factory.

My experience with gunbroker has been positive, good luch with your deal.

Jeffvn
 
JeffVN said:
I'm not defending your seller, but every factory rifle I bought (only 2, but it applies to both) showed up dirty and obviously fired from the factory.

My experience with gunbroker has been positive, good luch with your deal.

Jeffvn
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Thanks for your reply. I had considered that, but what thru me off was the brake. I can understand the bore being slightly fouled, but the the brake showed powder residue in the ports, and that's what gave me the idea that it had to have been shot since it was new. This barrel supposedly was removed from a rifle that was bought strictly for the action. The brake was added later. Am I wrong in my thinking? I'm not out to cause anyone undue problems, but I don't want a barrel with 500 shots down it either. I'm taking it over to a friends tonight so we can look at it with his borescope and see what the situation it.
 
I have seen some other sellers idea of "new" with scopes, rangefinders, etc, being just as you describe it. To some people "new" also means "like new" even though they had used it.

To them, if it ain't got obvious signs of territorial markings on it, then its new! Then of course, some folks are just dishonest. To sell a fired barrel as "new" is really stretching it. That to me is plum dishonest.
 
Jackson~in~GA said:
Thanks for your reply. I had considered that, but what thru me off was the brake. I can understand the bore being slightly fouled, but the the brake showed powder residue in the ports, and that's what gave me the idea that it had to have been shot since it was new. This barrel supposedly was removed from a rifle that was bought strictly for the action. The brake was added later. Am I wrong in my thinking? I'm not out to cause anyone undue problems, but I don't want a barrel with 500 shots down it either. I'm taking it over to a friends tonight so we can look at it with his borescope and see what the situation it.
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Bore scope the throat, it's the only way I know to tell the truth about bore ware. The other thing I suspect is that the tuner was taken off a other barrel to sweeten the deal.
 
Jackson, I think you are going about resolving this issue the right way. If the borescope shows fire cracking or any other signs of significant usage, I'd want my money back & a call tag. Good luck.
My own experiences with GunBroker & a couple of other internet sites have been almost entirely positive. I have had a couple guns come in a little worse condition than I had hoped, but you have to factor those in with the ones that come in much better than you had expected, too. Worst problem I have had is buying rifles with chrome moly barrels, way too many pitted barrels. The borescope allows me to see things most other folks can't see. Sometimes you can look down the barrel with your eye & it looks good, then you put the scope in it & say OMG!
If your seller has done a number on you & won't co-operate, the site will help you resolve your issues if necessary. Just log in to the site & pull up the ad showing you as the buyer. There should be a yellow box that you click on to get that process started if need be.
 
my take

Most all if not all new remingtons i have bought have some copper or powder residue in the barrel.But i saw that ad and wondered why a muzzle brake would have been installed on a "new take off "that doesn't come factory with one.Unlike you,i didn't bid on them!!
 
There is a difference between "New" and "Never Fired".

As others have said, the tip off to you should have been the installation of Harrell brake............of course if somebody is going to go to the extra expense of installing a brake, there is a very good chance that it was tested for accuracy and found unexceptable to that owners standards.......................why put a brake on a gun purchased only for the action?

If the barrel borescopes with no firecracking and you paid less that $100 for it and the brake, then consider it a good purchase.

Firecracked or paying more than $125, then probably not a good deal.....................Don
 
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If you ever buy a gun or gun part on the Internet or from Gun Digest that is in BETTER condition than described let me know and I'll buy the beer. "NIB," "ANIB," "As New," or "Used, New Condition" very, very seldom are truly as described. They virtually all show some use.

Written descriptions are hard to evaluate. Some sellers really use good prose to mislead buyers. Photos are of little help. My favorites are those that are in dim light and out of focus. And you thought lighting in dim gun show rooms was bad!

The only way to protect yourself is to get a 3-day inspection with a "no questions asked" return privelege. If the seller balks, don't buy from him. If you buy it and it ain't right, send it back. I've had things back on the UPS truck in 15 minutes.

Be prepared to pay the freight both ways if you return things a lot. With rifles sent second day this can add up. Trust me, I know. I've paid $200 in shipping costs to look at "99%" rifles that were 85% at best. Expensive entertainment!
 
Jackson. I have used GunBroker. The M1 Garand I got was better than described. "Barrel hardly shot" looked new to me. With a bore scope. FFL said his buddy shot it a few times.
To some 500 rounds is new. But, have to go with Don's opinion.
Now NIB. Last few yrs. I have bought a few firearms NEW. Everyone had a dirty barrel. Function fire at the factory.
 
New

I sold a Browning Medelist with a "new" spare magazine. I had purchased the mag from a dealer and had inserted it into the gun to be sure it fit. He complained that it was therefore not "new". I did not think his complaint to be reasonable, and it was just a complaint, he did not want a refund.
I like to use a postal money order to pay for any internet firearm purchase. The Postal service has their own investigators and in one case, years ago, their visit to the offending party finally got me a refund.
 
realm-aw said:
i sold a browning medelist with a "new" spare magazine. I had purchased the mag from a dealer and had inserted it into the gun to be sure it fit. He complained that it was therefore not "new". I did not think his complaint to be reasonable, and it was just a complaint, he did not want a refund.
I like to use a postal money order to pay for any internet firearm purchase. The postal service has their own investigators and in one case, years ago, their visit to the offending party finally got me a refund.
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smart!
 
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