30BR stock recommendation, please!

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skeetlee

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Fellas, I am currently in the middle of building a 30BR on a new BAT 3L and i thought i had everything worked out. I purchased a couple of the Robertson BRX stocks, one for the 30BR and the other for a ppc rifle. I have been shooting the ppc BRX stock for a few weeks now, and as much as i hate to admit it, i just dont like the way this stock feels. My hands are fairly small, and the thick grip area on these BRX stocks makes it hard for me to get a good solid feel on the trigger. The stocks are very beautiful, and a true work of art, but like i said, it just doesnt feel all that great. I really like the mcmillan Bruno edge stocks, and i am thinking i will sell the brx to get another bruno edge. The problem is that i can only find these bruno edge stocks in Light varmint, and i want the 30BR to weigh 13.8 pounds. My question is this. Is it a bad idea to use a LV stock for a HV rifle?
I have some nice brass rods i can bed in the butt stock to make up the weight.
I guess i just recon there must be a reason why mcmillan sells these stocks in two different classifications. Those being LV, and HV. So is it a bad idea to use a LV stock on a HV 30BR rifle? This may sound a bit silly, but i want to do this right from the start. I am not cutting any corners on this project. Should i just order a HV stock from Mcmillan? Also does anyone here no what the difference is between the New Bruno Mcmillan edge stocks are as compared to the old style bruno Mcmillan edge stocks?
I hate like heck not to be able to use this BRX stock, but i just dont want to regret it later. I just cant feel the trigger like i think i need to while using the BRX stock. The grip area is just to wide for my hands, or shooting style. It feels like i am searching for the trigger all the time, and when i finally find it, it is sometimes a bit to late, as the shot is already on target, or off target. LOL!! Thanks Lee
 
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Skeet

The entire crop of stocks that share the same basic design as the BRX are really intended for free recoil shooting. I use them, and a Scarborough, and the only thing that touches the Rifle, (including my 10.5 pound 30BR), is my finger on the trigger.

The EDGE does have a slimmer pistol grip. I really do not know the difference in the two EDGE designs.

If you are going to build a true HV, I think you should start with a heavier stock, with added material where it strengthens the stock, not just add weight. I seem to be in the minority on this line of thinking, as the majority seem to just stick a weight in the back of a LV Stock.

When I odered the Sock that my 30BR HV is based on, I ordered it at 35 ounces, with the added weight being made up with more layers of the actual stock material.

Incidentally, you said in your weight "13.8 pounds". That is not correct. In the decimal system, that should be "13.5 pounds'. The other way should be stated "13 lbs, 8 ounces".

Not trying to be overly picky, but if you did indeed build a "13.8 lb" Rifle, it would be overweight.........jackie
 
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Old vs. new Mcmillian
I may be wrong on this, but....I have a Bruno LV stock circa late 90's that used to be on my 6 PPC (which now wears a Robertson stock) . The old Bruno fore-end has tapered sides, and the butt end is not much different than a hunter stock style...although it has a more slab-sided look. I shoot free-recoil and the BRX tracks much better.
I also bought an Edge stock in '05 from Bruno that is part of a HV set-up. This stock has that "I-beam" design element that Mcmillian states in their literature....simply put: the forend looks like someone added a 1x 3 to the fore-end bottom of the old Bruno stock. The butt end, however, resembles the BRX i.e. less angle ...except not as fat. This stock also tracks better than the older Bruno. According to Mcmillians web-site, the layering technique on the new design also yields a stock that is stiffer. I like this stock also....and it is compatable with the free-recoil style that this set-up also likes.
This new Edge also has a weight system built into the butt......not sure they all have this feature.
 
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Yes sir, I did indeed mean 13 pounds 8 ounces. the funny thing is that i actually thought about that when i typed it. LOL!!
Thanks for wisdom concerning the stocks. I am getting ready to head back out with the brx. I am going to try to shoot it without touching anything but the trigger. I usually rest my right hand against the side of the pistol grip when i shoot. Lee
 
skeetlee said:
Yes sir, I did indeed mean 13 pounds 8 ounces. the funny thing is that i actually thought about that when i typed it. LOL!!
Thanks for wisdom concerning the stocks. I am getting ready to head back out with the brx. I am going to try to shoot it without touching anything but the trigger. I usually rest my right hand against the side of the pistol grip when i shoot. Lee
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I use a Protector "elbow bag" under my shooting hand for support...........some use a gator bag with the off-set ears. The ONLY contact besides finger is whisker stubs. I find that free-recoil in a 30 BR is very hard to get accustomed to....even in a HV gun.
 
try the new robertson J T R it has what you want

high sides, small pistol grip, ability to go from record to sighter and back with little movement, nice finish and so on

Jefferson the J in JTR



ps you can have the stock with heavy or action fill to increase the weight to make a nice HV stock, but you may have to place a deposit to do this as they dont make them except on special order, thanks to me, maybe I can weigh the one I have



at 4 pounds 3 ounces with a butt plate and trigger guard done up for a bat 3 lug pillared by Ian himself, the regular stocks weigh in at 28 with butt plate and fill in back end, later eh!
 
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JEFFY(Jefferson)

has it right. He is the J part of the JTR.

It is going on my new LV build because I suffer the same fate of having small hands. I shoot free recoil so I only touch with my trigger finger but I wanted to try something different and it feels good in the hands as well.

Calvin
 
Lee, these stocks can get confusing. There are the:

-McMillan Edge. I-beam sides and available only through McMillan or their dealers.
-Bruno/McMillan. Tapered front sides, made by McMillan for Bruno, available only from Bruno.
-Bruno/McMillan Edge. A mod. of the original Bruno/McMillan pattern, does not have I-beam front sides, available only from Bruno. The fore end is slightly different on these from the original Bruno/McMillan.

There might some other small differences, as well...but this may make it a bit clearer.

I have two of the original Bruno/McMillan stocks. Both are LV stocks. One I've modified with a weight system for my HV gun. I just finished bedding a new Bruno/Mcmillan Edge stock for a friend. It was a HV stock with no weight system. Bruno's had it on hand.

Good shootin'. -Al
 
I went back to the range this afternoon to try a couple different things before i total make up my mind on these BRX stocks i have. I have been using a pillow bag under my elbow and i thought it was the right thing to do. Tonight however after reading what Mr Schmidt had to say i took the bag out from under my elbow, and put it under my right hand. I was able to shoot the rifle with just my finger touching the trigger, and it felt better than before.
The other thing i feel like i need to mention is that i am a bit concerned about the hollow butt stock on this BRX stock i bought for the 30BR project. Of course it will make it simple to add weight to, but with this stock being completely hollow is there going to be a rigidity issue? It has also been suggested to me that the LV BRX stocks are a bit on the flimsy side. Any thoughts on those two ideas??
I hate to be so full of questions, but when i first started shooting a couple years ago i went a little crazy and i built some rifles without having a full understanding of the components i used. I have since sold those rifles and i am replacing them with BAT actions and the proper components. I Just need to make sure i pick the right stock for this 30BR and the rest will be history, and i can continue working on my wind reading skills or lack there of. Anyway i want to know my equipment is all that it can be for my budget.
So are the BRX stocks stiff enough to handel the 30cal and is the hollow stock of any comcern? If i need to order a stock from mcmillan and wait 6 months that what i am prepaired to do. I want this rifle to be right!!! I want to be able to win with this rifle, and when i screw up, i want to know it isnt the stock or anything else other than me!! Thanks gentelmen! Lee
 
JTR Pic

Jefferson said:
high sides, small pistol grip, ability to go from record to sighter and back with little movement, nice finish and so on

Jefferson the J in JTR



ps you can have the stock with heavy or action fill to increase the weight to make a nice HV stock, but you may have to place a deposit to do this as they dont make them except on special order, thanks to me, maybe I can weigh the one I have



at 4 pounds 3 ounces with a butt plate and trigger guard done up for a bat 3 lug pillared by Ian himself, the regular stocks weigh in at 28 with butt plate and fill in back end, later eh!
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JTR Pic
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calvin can link the old threads

I am not able to , computor illiterate,
if you email me I can send some cad drawings to post, I may still have them on my computor



Jeff
 
Skeet

as Jeff says when I ordered my JTR stock I was asked if it was for a light or Heavy. I did not realize until now that they would fill the stock to make them heavier.

If you are going to build it as a heavy I would ahve the stock filled to make weight. You have all your components so you know how heavy the stock can be whn pillar bedded. I would add weight to the stock if you can.

In regards to the stock being hollow the BRX is hollow. Guess what that was Speedy's design. I would think he would ahve an idea what he wanted in a stock. Many use them and they work.

The recoil of the 30 BR is NOT that much more that it cannot handle the recoil in my opinion.

I am pretty sure that mcmillans are not solid right through or Bruno's. They probably have a light filler in them so theydo not have that hollow sound to them.

This JMO.

Calvin
 
You might have a look

at Tom Merideth's stocks. His are different than most currently being produced and more like stocks from the past, visually at least. The RF folks seem to like his stocks.
 
I have tom meredith do most all my stock work, and i was talking with him today about this subject. Tom says it is perfectly fine to use a LV stock for a HV rifle. He said he likes doing this because it allows him to use the proper amount of weight to balance the rifle. He also said that it isnt necessary to make the rifle 13 pounds 8 ounces if it balances properly at 13 pounds. I also had that suggested to me from another good man here on this site. Anyway my barreled action and scope will be here by the weeks end, so i will make up my mind as to what i am going to use for a stock after i see were i am at on weight. I might be using a NF scope on this 30BR so i am not real sure were i will be on weight until i put it all on the scale. I have also had some nice offeres for some HV stocks, and i may do that as well. I will think it trough and i am sure i will be fine in the end. I really enjoy the 30BR and i want this rifle to be special rifle, so i am sure it will be!! I have a tendency to over think things from time to time, but i have already been down the wrong road, and i didnt care much for that path!! Thanks for all the replies fellas!! Lee
 
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