.17 Rem. project.

Al Nyhus

"It'll never work!"
Last Winter, I picked up this barely fired .17 Rem LVSF. Fired it a few times to check the neck diameter and functioning, then set to tweaking and rounding up components.

The B&C stock was a flippin' mess...the alum. bedding block was off axis both directions relative to the stocks centerline and the forearm was twisted about 15 degrees relative to the butt. I used a lapping bar to straighten the bedding block out and give some room for a good amt. of Pro Bed, then did a two point bedding job (no contact along the reciever sides). The barrel channel was opened up for a good amt. of clearance.

A Redding f.l. Type S. bushing die proved a good fit for the chamber. The expander ball was reduced in dia. so it doesn't contact the i.d. of the neck. A .193 bushing proved to be what the gun likes. A Wilson inline seater from Russ Haydon and a Mike Lucas bore guide completed my gear needs. I already had a Dewey rod, lots of jags, brushes, pathes and other stuff from my previous .17's. At the Postal BR matches this year, I had won a certificate for 300 Berger bullets, so they kindly sent me two boxes (400) of 25 gr. match bullets.

Checking the seating depth showed a fairly short throat, with the base of the Berger 25's about halfway down the length of the neck when the bullet just contacted the lands. I cleaned the bejeezus out of the barrel with Butch's and a bronze brush, finishing up with a good JB'ing. Running a patch down the bore made me cringe as it feels rougher than a old corn cob. I wasn't expecting it to be like the Shilen and Lilja .17 barrels I used on my customs, but this was rough even when compared to other factory .17 barrel from Remington in the '80's and '90's. Oh well....

My custom barrels always liked WW760, but this one sure didn't. Three shot groups wouldn't go smaller than the big .6's to low .7's. IMR4320 has always been the classic powder for the .17 Rem, so that where I went next. My experience before with other factory .17 Rem. barrels was that they
start to shoot well with the powder around the 24.0 gr. mark. This
proved to be the case here, as well. At 24.0, 24.3 and 24.5 it shoots three shot groups in the mid to big .5's, with a best of a .485 @ 24.0 gr. Two seperate range sessions confirmed this load at temps from 50 degrees to 80.

Surprisingly, as rough as the barrel feels...it really doesn't copper foul badly. After 35 rounds, a few wet patches and 20 strokes with a brush gets the copper out. Just goes to show that 'ya never know how a barrel will perform until you wring it out.

So here it is: A Weaver V16 with Bal. Plex. reticle in Talley LW's is a nice optical setup for a rig like this. It's not particularly light, tipping the scale at 7lbs, 12oz. ready to go. But it's compact, is just heavy enough to settle well off hand and is well balanced. Once the temps drop into the 30's, I'll establish the 'zero' and see how the reticle stacks up. My initial thought is that the spacing is a bit much for the .17 Rem. Can't wait to get after some fox this Winter.

Anyway...good shootin'. -Al

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Al Nyhus: Best of luck this coming Fox season with your new 17 Remington.
I am currently shooting 3 Remington factory Rifles in caliber 17 Remington.
I have been pleased with the accuracy of all of them.
I have a 700 BDL, a Remington Classic and a limited edition all stainless steel 700 Varminter (with 26" stainless heavy barrel).
I use the wonderful Berger 25 grain bullets in all three of them by the way.
I use Remington nickel plated brass in my Varmint weight 17 Remington along with Remington 7 1/2 primers and H 4895 - its best group (5 shots at 100 yards in dead calm conditions) gave me a .241" reading.
Normally though this Varminter with its Leupold 6.5x20 variable scope produces groups in the mid and high 4's.
I have only shot a couple of Fox with my 17 Remingtons (many Coyotes though!) and the hides of the Fox suffer some!
Be aware of this if you are interested in saving the pelts.
I also like the choice of the Weaver V-16 you chose for the LVSF - I have several of these Weavers (although none are on 17 Remingtons) and I REALLY like them.
Again best of luck with the new rig.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
 
Hi Al,

I have the same rifle as you and haven't dug into as much but I have had a problem also. Mine has been showing high pressure signs, and a blown primer. The brass was new and I was on the bottom end of the reloading scale and still had problems. I was using 20 & 25gr bullets. Have checked with a go and no-go gauge and everthing was fine. Primers are cratering. I am going to have a new oversized firing pin installed and have it rechambered. I wonder if I created a head space problem when I sized the new brass. Any ideas ?

Thxs Jeff
 
Jeff

What primmer are you using?
Try the Rem 7 1/2's
I would look into having your bolt face bushed to a smaller firing pin nose diameter rather than a over sized firing pin.
You might give Greg at Gre-Tan a call, he will fix you up.

Hal
 
Hal

I was using the Rem 71/2's. On the firing pin I prob should of said fitted not oversized.
On another subject that Al brought up, I also have a 204 LVSF. It wouldn't group worth a darn. Had it beded. Now shoots 1/2" but you can see that the bedding block was crooked in mine also. B&C makes good stocks for the LVSF :p

Jeff
 
Everyone of those bedding blocks need bedding and don't forget to float the magazine box, then you will get some great groups.

I had the chamber set back on one with a minimum spec match turn neck reamer. Groups were in the low 2's after I eliminated the issue of different pressures exerted by thick neck brass as the brass work hardened.

Berger 25's were fantastic on yotes.
 
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